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State of the Union "Guestworker"/Illegal Immigration Action
Federation for American Immigration Reform ^ | Jan 20, 2004 | staff

Posted on 01/20/2004 7:08:42 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING

Title: State of the Union Immigration Action Source: FAIR / Federation for American Immigration Reform (Wash., D.C.) URL Source: http://www.fairus.org Published: Jan 20, 2004 Author: Federation for American Immigration Reform

Legislative Update January 20, 2004 They're baaack! Tonight at 9:00 p.m., the president will present his annual State of the Union speech before a joint session of the House and Senate. During his speech, President Bush is widely expected to discuss the proposal he made on January 7 for a sweeping amnesty and guestworker program. New Poll Shows Bush a Loser on Amnesty and Guestworkers Clearly, the president is ignoring the views of the general public. A new poll by CBS News and the New York Times shows Bush's approval rating down 10 points, from 60 percent to 50 percent, since his amnesty/guestworker announcement. Meanwhile the poll finds the president's disapproval rating has risen to 45 percent. CBS attributes the abrupt change to three factors, not least of which is his immigration proposal.

Many thanks to all of you for your overwhelming response to our Action Alerts for calls, e-mails, and faxes letting the president and members of the House and Senate know how you feel about Bush's proposal. It has made a big difference already, but we're not out of the woods yet. Please keep it up by calling the White House at 202-456-1111 and by using your Legislative Action Center to help you send a free fax to your members of the House and Senate.

Hagel and Daschle to Introduce Amnesty Legislation This week, Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE) and Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD) may introduce legislation responding to President Bush's amnesty/guestworker proposal. While none of the details are known as yet, the legislation is widely expected to be even more far-reaching than the president's plan. The Hagel-Daschle plan is expected to differ from Bush's, for example by offering citizenship to illegal aliens on an accelerated basis. You can contact Senator Hagel to let him know your views by calling his office at 202-224-4224 or send him an e-mail at http://hagel.senate.gov/email/contact.html. Senator Daschle's leadership office can be reached by calling 202-224-5556 or by e-mail at mailto:tom_daschle@daschle.senate.gov. Please feel free to use the talking points contained in the Alert linked above.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; guestworkers; immigrationreform; stateoftheunion
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I listened carefully and only heard the what we already know. Not one word on the costs to American taxpayers for this lunacy. According to new information from the Center for Immigration Studies, now 35% of illegals are on public assistance.

President Bush declared that he is "opposed to an Amnesty." But as a friend pointed out, the results of the Guestworker program are the same. They just won't call it an amnesty.

Americans need jobs, yet all that was proposed was more training. He neglected to point out what fields his new program will leave untouched by the Guestworker program. It has essentially opened up the world's employment door so Corporations no longer need to trouble themselves by a move offshore. They can get their cheap labor right here on US soil. And the American Taxpayer will continue to subsidize that cheap labor they aren't benefitting from. That is tyranny.

I urge you to call, fax, and email the President of the United States and your homeboy representatives. It's important that they be reminded that we are not going to stand still for this invasion that is not an amnesty.

Click on the URL above for info and free fax service.

president@whitehouse.gov Fax: 202-456-2461

Whitehouse: 202-456-1414, 202-456-1111 and 202-456-6213

Senate and House: 1-800-648-3516

Republican National Committee: 202-863-8500 (toll call)

1 posted on 01/20/2004 7:08:43 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
A rose is a rose by any other name.....
2 posted on 01/20/2004 7:10:34 PM PST by Zipporah (Write inTancredo in 2004)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING; PhiKapMom; onyx; Tamsey; Wolfstar; ohioWfan; woodyinscc; Southack; Howlin; ...
New Poll Shows Bush a Loser on Amnesty

Well, that's good, because Bush said in his speech that he opposes amnesty. So, who is wrong here: Bush, or the Buchanan voters on these threads who continue to characterize his proposal as amnesty? I tend to believe the President, and every attempt to twist his proposal into what it isn't is disingenuous and untrue, and I question both the intelligence and the motives of those who do so.

3 posted on 01/20/2004 7:12:57 PM PST by My2Cents ("Failure is not an option.")
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Calm down.

1) It won't pass the House. Tancredo says he has enough votes to block it and so does Elton Gallegly.

2) Bush isn't going to be President forever.

If you want to help block it, go contact John Hostettler who chairs the Immigration Sub Committee in the House.

He is an Immigration Hawk and he can kill it.
4 posted on 01/20/2004 7:13:05 PM PST by Pubbie (Hillary is not running in 2004 - GET OVER IT People!)
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To: My2Cents
Well, that's good, because Bush said in his speech that he opposes amnesty

He has said it before tonights speech .. but it won't stop those from putting words into his mouth

6 posted on 01/20/2004 7:16:59 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
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7 posted on 01/20/2004 7:17:48 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004! VOTE TANCREDO!)
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To: My2Cents
Yeah, and we eat roast beast every year for Christmas.

It may look like beef, smell like beef and taste like beef, but it's not, it's beast because we say it is.

You can fool some of the people some of the time.... and then there are the gullible neo's who you can fool all of the time. Just slap a GOP label on it.
8 posted on 01/20/2004 7:18:33 PM PST by LaraCroft (If the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, do the stupid get stupider?)
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To: My2Cents
Did you miss THIS in your rush to attack us?

President Bush declared that he is "opposed to an Amnesty." But as a friend pointed out, the results of the Guestworker program are the same. They just won't call it an amnesty.

9 posted on 01/20/2004 7:18:54 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004! VOTE TANCREDO!)
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To: Pubbie
1) It won't pass the House. Tancredo says he has enough votes to block it and so does Elton Gallegly.

I'm not buying that. The above URL also has a report card on how your homeboys vote on the issue. Check them out.
10 posted on 01/20/2004 7:20:28 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004! VOTE TANCREDO!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Tancredo claims that it will never pass the House..... Now is Tancredo telling the truth? If so don't get so worked up over something that is dead....

Here's a little more from Tancredo.... He supports the President but will oppose him vehemently on this issue..... Tancredo has a bill filed on this same subject....

When asked about his response to the outpouring of support in Cochise County, including the push for the man to run for president of the United States, Tancredo smiled and replied, "I love the people here, they are just wonderful to me."

And while he appeared to relish in the thought of a presidential bid, when addressing the crowd later in the evening, Tancredo told the group that his support for President Bush runs much deeper than the immigration issue.

"The fact is the president and I are at odds on this issue I never came to Congress with the thought in my mind that I would be arguing with my president from my party," Tancredo told the crowd. "But you can disagree with the president without being disloyal because this is a basic fundamental difference about how we view the future of the country and despite supporting the president this is not a fight I will walk away from."


11 posted on 01/20/2004 7:20:46 PM PST by deport
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To: JustPiper
Ping please. The Harpies have already sent forth the call. LOL
12 posted on 01/20/2004 7:21:18 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004! VOTE TANCREDO!)
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To: Zipporah
Exactly. If it walks like a duck...
13 posted on 01/20/2004 7:21:45 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004! VOTE TANCREDO!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

Are you deaf? He said NO AMNESTY!


14 posted on 01/20/2004 7:22:10 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: onyx
ARE YOU BLIND???? DID YOU MISS THIS????????????????????

Did you miss THIS in your rush to attack us?

President Bush declared that he is "opposed to an Amnesty." But as a friend pointed out, the results of the Guestworker program are the same. They just won't call it an amnesty.


15 posted on 01/20/2004 7:25:20 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004! VOTE TANCREDO!)
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To: My2Cents; ETERNAL WARMING
So, who is wrong here: Bush, or the Buchanan voters on these threads who continue to characterize his proposal as amnesty? I tend to believe the President, and every attempt to twist his proposal into what it isn't is disingenuous and untrue, and I question both the intelligence and the motives of those who do so.

Hear! Hear! Not a hard choice.....

MAGNIFICENT speech tonight, eh My2Cents?

Strong words from a strong President.

The Naysayers (right OR left) can't change that no matter how they try to spin.......

16 posted on 01/20/2004 7:27:24 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
So you're saying Tancredo is wrong/doesn't know what he's talking about?

There a lot of Immigration Hawks in the House Judiciary Committee, Elton Gallegly, Lamar Smith, John Hostettler, Sensenbrenner, Tom Feeney, Steve King...

There are over 60 House GOPers are signed up with Tancredo's Caucus and are certain to vote against any amnesty.
17 posted on 01/20/2004 7:27:46 PM PST by Pubbie (Hillary is not running in 2004 - GET OVER IT People!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
You make your arguments out of whole cloth, you have no standing. You twist words, you make up facts, and no matter what you say, it will not help your agenda. You see, you have no credibility.
18 posted on 01/20/2004 7:28:12 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
There have been four bills filed in Congress dealing with this issue..... You best get after them as that is where the legislation will be written should Tancredo not be able to stop it as he claims he can.....

Now here's a little info on Tancredo's bill and ideas...


Rep. Tom Tancredo’s Four-Point Plan for Immigration Control

The United States has lost control over its immigration policy. Over one million persons enter our nation illegally each year and we have antiquated and error-prone systems for knowing who our legal visitors are and for enforcing their visa time limits. Every poll shows that over 75% of citizens support border security and strict enforcement of our immigration laws. They want our immigration policies fixed. Here is my four-point plan for achieving control of our borders and enforcing sensible immigration policies.

1. Secure our Nation’s Borders

2. Establish a Genuine Guest Worker Program

3. Improve “Interior Enforcement” of Immigration Laws

4. Remove Incentives for Illegal Immigration


19 posted on 01/20/2004 7:28:14 PM PST by deport
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To: Pubbie
Not necessarily. But I take no chances. There is a move afoot as we speak to draft Tancredo, and he hasn't said no.
20 posted on 01/20/2004 7:30:33 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004! VOTE TANCREDO!)
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