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To: Diamond
If you want the state to regulate abortion by pure arbitrary power of decree, then please don't talk to me about our other inalienable rights , including the right to carry.
If one does not respect the right to life, liberty & property of their peers then one has no reason to demand that selfsame respect from others.

Exactly my point. The right to life is the sine qua non of all other rights, including the right to carry.

The mothers pregnant womans right to life should be your constitutional concern, -- and her preborn fetus is her concern..

I find your use of the word "mother" here interesting. The mother of WHAT? (or should I say WHOM?)

Specious..

More importantly, though, the mother's right to her physical life has very little to do with abortion-killing. Whereas the law previously allowing the taking of the life of one where both would othersise die, it now perversly allows the taking of the life of one where both would otherwise live.

The constitution protects the woman from false 'murder' charges based on the criminalization of early term abortion.

There is nothing arbitrary about the state protecting the inalienable right to life, just as there is nothing arbitary about the state protecing, in your words, the inalienable right to bear (carry) arms because enforcement of those rights is the very function of the state. To argue for some supposed right to early term abortion-killing, is by logical extension, to argue against one's own right to life,

Tell it to the woman you would force to term.

which is self-defeating. It is self-evident that you are, ontologically speaking, the same person, the very same being you were from the moment you began to exist. It therefore would have been as much a violation of your right to life to attack and kill you at any stage of your life, whether it were three minutes, three weeks, or 3 years after you began to exist.

Three minutes after the lab tech combines egg & sperm, that combination has a constitutionally protected right to life? -- Get real, -- you are hyping the issue.

132 posted on 01/23/2004 9:08:12 AM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but the U.S. Constitution defines a conservative. (writer 3)
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To: tpaine
Three minutes after the lab tech combines egg & sperm, that combination has a constitutionally protected right to life? -- Get real, -- you are hyping the issue.

When then did you, for example, begin to exist? At what other point could you have possibly begun to exist other than at the beginning? Do you believe that your mother had, or should have had the right to kill you at some point in your life? If yes, then that view doesn't seem logical to me. It seems self-defeating.

Cordially,

143 posted on 01/23/2004 10:02:52 AM PST by Diamond
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