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To: tpaine
- We cannot allow fed, state, or local governments to have the power to prohibit 'sinful' behaviors

That argument doesn't hold water.

If the state is not allowed to prohibit "sinful behavior" it can not prohibit most criminal acts. The majority of what are deemed sins by major religions are also the basis of most secular law. If you're familiar with biblical commandments you must know that murder theft, perjury, and false testimony before a judge, among other things the state rightfully prohibits, are also sins in a religious context. Are you saying that the state has no authority to prohibit those "sins" and to punish those who commit them?

In the ultimate libertarian "paradise" you seem to advocate there would be a state of lawless anarchy in which individuals are subjected to the depredations of the most rapacious and violent, aka the law of the jungle, the absolute worst possible nightmare any society can experience.

130 posted on 01/23/2004 8:55:33 AM PST by epow
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To: epow
--- We cannot allow fed, state, or local governments to have the power to prohibit 'sinful' behaviors. No matter how morally repugnant a majority may find certain acts or objects, we must observe our bill of rights in regulating them, in a reasonable fashion.
Criminalizing early term abortion as murder is an unreasonable prohibition; -- states have no such power..
Our government is not enpowered to make law respecting the precepts of specific religions, much less prosecute as murder the moral dilemma of early term abortion. Learn to live with that constitutional fact.. It's the american way.

That argument doesn't hold water. If the state is not allowed to prohibit "sinful behavior" it can not prohibit most criminal acts.

Nonsense. Our common law defines criminal acts. Our constitution protects us from overzealous interpretations of what is 'crime'..

The majority of what are deemed sins by major religions are also the basis of most secular law. If you're familiar with biblical commandments you must know that murder theft, perjury, and false testimony before a judge, among other things the state rightfully prohibits, are also sins in a religious context. Are you saying that the state has no authority to prohibit those "sins" and to punish those who commit them?

I'm saying the state must follow our constitution in the writing of law. They cannot decree that early term abortion is murder, any more than decree 'assault' guns are prohibited..

In the ultimate libertarian "paradise" you seem to advocate there would be a state of lawless anarchy in which individuals are subjected to the depredations of the most rapacious and violent, aka the law of the jungle, the absolute worst possible nightmare any society can experience.

I advocate constitutional law, you do not.. You're having the [nightmare] dream, not me.

138 posted on 01/23/2004 9:36:39 AM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but the U.S. Constitution defines a conservative. (writer 3)
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