Two Tancredo’s Two Too Many for Bush Administration

azconservative.org ^ | 01/20/2004 | By Dennis Durband, Editor

[reelfoot]

BUMP for Tancredo and Pearce; I hope both are elected this fall and Rove chokes on his brie when the election results come in to the White House.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Arnold only beat McClintock senseless by a 48-13 margin.

Who mentioned McClintock lol?

The voters of California, including liberals threw out Davis after his mindless pandering to illegal aliens and giving them drivers licenses. Some polls say as much as 30% of the voters were influenced by that decision to vote against him.

Now if you want to think illegal immigration and pandering to them is wonderful... fine, but most of us don't feel that way.

[ArneFufkin]

Don't give me that. A huge part of the opposition to Schwarzenegger, during those putrid Recall FR threads, was that he was going to regularize illegals in California. Sabertooth was all over those threads.

The bigger lesson learned from the California recall for Karl Rove and all other astute observers? The loud, disaffected minority fringers are an irrelevance when a popular, moderate Party favorite can garner crossover support. Like Arnold in October. Like Bush this coming November.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

The vote in California was more against Davis than for somebody else. They wanted him out because of his pandering and lying. I don't even live in the state and know that, if you don't believe me talk to someone who does live there.

[ArneFufkin]

The Recall of Grey Davis was certified on March 25. Davis signed the License bill on September 5. He was recalled because of his mismanagement of the California Budget. The drivers license bill was the struggle of a drowning man. Schwarzenegger would have won that election anyway.

[RightWingMama]

The vote in California was more against Davis than for somebody else. They wanted him out because of his pandering and lying. I don't even live in the state and know that, if you don't believe me talk to someone who does live there.

True, very true.

[MissAmericanPie]

Well at least it is out in the open now. People who had their heads firmly planted in the sand had them yanked out by the Prez himself.

Now the dirty tricks.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Many liberals may have backed Davis in the end if not for his pandering to illegals. As I said as much as 30% of the electorate was influenced by that decision. It was that important and your attempt to trivialize it won't work.

[ArneFufkin]

As I said as much as 30% of the electorate was influenced by that decision

"Influenced" how? To vote for Arnold instead of Cruz? To vote for Tom instead of Cruz? To not vote?

What are the breakdowns of vote impact between Schwarzenegger, Bustamante and McClintock from this outrage? Surely you have those factoids at hand.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

What are the breakdowns of vote impact between Schwarzenegger, Bustamante and McClintock from this outrage? Surely you have those factoids at hand.

So it's the "give me the link" game now. It's very easy to find through google, help yourself.

There were endless stories on it that enough voters were outraged by his drivers license scheme to influence their vote. It's that simple and it's not my problem you're having a hard time accepting that.

[sinkspur]

Our RealOnlyTrueConservativeConstitutionalPatriots TM here on FR are tongue kissing the leftwing DU cockroaches with increasing regularity as this election season goes on. Not a bit of difference between a paleo third party nutjob type here and a flaming Trotskyite nutjob type there. Both want Bush gone, and a Democrat in, come November 2004.

Yep. Fringe on the right and fringe on the left is still fringe.

[Spiff]

Tom Tancredo's rhetoric may be over the top on occasion,

Says who? I've never heard Rep. Tancredo say anything that was "over the top". Not once. He's one of the most level-headed Congressman I've had the pleasure to meet, to read, and to watch.

[Spiff]

Rove, and the RNC, should put every resource available toward vaporizing Tancredo from his House seat for pulling that b.s. on Jeff Flake. It just shows what destructive, useless backstabbers the lunatic fringe immigration bunkermonkeys are.

What the hell are you talking about? What "b.s." did Tancredo "pull" on Flake?

[ArneFufkin]

What is Tom Tancredo, Colorado representative, doing in Cochise County, AZ, besides making a high-profile publicity appearance and in a not so subtle challenge to the immigrant regularization plan, underway in Congress, sponsored by that Arizona District's Republican Representative? Are you effing dense?

[reelfoot]

Since both major parties (Republicrats) seem to be in favor of illegal immigration, I suppose anyone insisting on enforcement of our immigration laws would be "fringe" in your view. Millions of Americans, and the overwhelming majority of conservatives, would disagree with you on this.

[sinkspur]

I suppose anyone insisting on enforcement of our immigration laws would be "fringe" in your view. Millions of Americans, and the overwhelming majority of conservatives, would disagree with you on this.

I keep hearing this, but, apparently, nobody votes on dragging illegals out of the country. Bush I didn't do it, Clinton didn't do it, GW isn't doing it, and illegal immigration is way down the list of issues that people care about.

How do you explain that?

[ArneFufkin]

Tiger Beat Magazine After Action Report

[skeeter]

I don't even live in the state and know that, if you don't believe me talk to someone who does live there.

Davis was in trouble concerning cooking the states books, but you're right - the license proposal was the coup de grace. It lent the recall tremendous popular momentum.

[ArneFufkin]

Sorry, Spiff, you backstabbed Kolbe instead.

That's why you third party malcontent fringers are to be kicked to the curb by the GOP and just left there to rot. You guys are arsonists. Tancredo should have stayed the hell out of Arizona. Gee, is he a national candidate for something? Bring the punk on already as your Contitution Party messiah.

[skeeter]

Gee, those GOP party boys really know how to build a coalition don't they.