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If humans get to Mars, what might they do? [We could be there within six years]
Reuters ^ | 1-20-04 | Reuters

Posted on 01/20/2004 2:14:21 AM PST by ambrose

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1 posted on 01/20/2004 2:14:22 AM PST by ambrose
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Phil V.
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2 posted on 01/20/2004 2:15:03 AM PST by ambrose
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Sort of putting the cart before the horse, I'd say. First we go back to the Moon to identify and use lunar resources. After we gain experience in living and working off-planet and understand how to use the Moon for fuel and life support, we can move on to Mars.
3 posted on 01/20/2004 2:18:32 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ambrose
The ACLU will open up an abortion clinic and a gay rights workshop right away.
4 posted on 01/20/2004 2:21:14 AM PST by thesummerwind (Like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
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To: ambrose
It reminds me of the Mars trilogy : Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars, by someone named Robinson, if I recall correctly. A little heavy on scientific facts, but fascinating when it came to terraforming the red planet.
5 posted on 01/20/2004 2:22:51 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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The Bush idea is to build an Earth-Moon system that will give us exploration freedom.

Mandell's sermon and moon paranoia, is in line with the Sagan/Mars agenda. It's a religion.

6 posted on 01/20/2004 2:23:11 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yup. NASA [and the FBI] should be reorganized with Americans.
7 posted on 01/20/2004 2:26:09 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There are those who say we should bypass the Moon and go straight to Mars. I suppose it makes sense to conquer the Moon before Mars.

However, I still don't understand why we can't send some colonists over to Mars now. Let's get the ball rolling.
8 posted on 01/20/2004 2:26:26 AM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose
THIS JUST IN:

Yes. A brave Democrat has just appeared, all dressed in "Mars-red"
and he declares himself ready to be sent to Mars.


9 posted on 01/20/2004 2:36:37 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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If humans get to Mars, what might they do? [We could be there within six years]

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Answer: Pray to God somebody is able to get them back out of there.

10 posted on 01/20/2004 2:38:18 AM PST by RLK
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Why would we want them to come back? We should send them there for good, in order to colonize.

It is our destiny.
11 posted on 01/20/2004 2:40:26 AM PST by ambrose
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The Mars without moon guys are primarily Robert Zubrin's group. His plan, Mars direct, seems scientifically sound. If anyone is willing to try it of course. http://www.marssociety.com Now, they are in support of Bush's current plan since, hey, at least it is a start.

Though I admit, even I would prefer the timeline moved up. But that can all be done as the plan becomes more concrete. And unlike Zubrin, I believe that going back to the moon should be done at least before going to Mars (if for no reason then to do more research into living in space, and litterally, another world).

I also like the idea of sending colonist to Mars now (all we need is the rockets, landers, whatever). But, one step at a time.
12 posted on 01/20/2004 2:40:52 AM PST by Simmy2.5 (Kerry. When you need to katchup...)
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Why would we want them to come back? We should send them there for good, in order to colonize. It is our destiny.

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Destiny? To colonize a frigid gravel pit?

13 posted on 01/20/2004 2:48:40 AM PST by RLK
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Mars is a beautiful planet... would you want aliens to judge the Earth's beauty based on a probe dropped in the Saharan desert?

As for frigid, it isn't too bad during the day near the equator... and wear a lot of clothes at night.
14 posted on 01/20/2004 2:52:33 AM PST by ambrose
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However, I still don't understand why we can't send some colonists over to Mars now. Let's get the ball rolling.

Because Congress would never fund a purely scientific mission. Science is extremely important but "searching for life" just won't cut it. Scientists believe life is out there (so how would that be a discovery?), so instead of going off on a whim and a prayer, they've been charged with building the roadway to travel into the cosmos. O'Keefe quickly realized the reason NASA was drifting was that it had no mission. He barn stormed with Bush and their experts to find a suitable goal to revitalize NASA, push technology, gain experience and utilize resources - and all just 3 days away. With Bush's initiate, the country will benefit and we'll be able to service our comsats (military and commercial) with the rocket fuel we will produce on the Moon. It's a solid proposal that will give concrete results.

15 posted on 01/20/2004 2:56:35 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Diogenesis
We need one of the robotic probes to dig up a hibernating Shadow vessel. That would get the ball rolling.
16 posted on 01/20/2004 3:09:34 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Simmy2.5
Maybe Mars could open its borders with Mexico.
17 posted on 01/20/2004 3:09:38 AM PST by RLK
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
His proposal was far too timid. 18 months and we should have crews on the moon. One hell of a nice place for a high energy laser, since it faces the Earth at all times.
18 posted on 01/20/2004 3:15:10 AM PST by 11B3 (Hillary is an Ankle.)
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To: Diogenesis
I'll say one thing for the current administration: It sure is nice not to see displays of idiocy like that anymore. Now if the president would drop the occasional idiocy in proposals (like immigration), life would be better.

Is it just me, or does Tipper look more like Monica wearing a wig in this photo?


19 posted on 01/20/2004 3:22:54 AM PST by 11B3 (Hillary is an Ankle.)
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This is the smart thing to do and about time too. By putting a permanent presence on the moon we ensure our future Mars success by colonizing something that isn't 18 months away. With Prometheus and other engines that can be used safely from the moon, Mars wont be 18 months away. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
To go to Mars directly is a stunt. The university professors that advocated robotics for research under the better-faster-cheaper really meant projects they could control and keep the science dollars for themselves. If everyone got into space they would lose control of the financial pie. If we went to Mars directly and came back it might be another thirty years before we did it again. When we did, we would have to ask permission from the Chinese to land on their planet. THEY are going into space to stay. It is a new space race. I just hope the liberals who hate us and the conservatives that hate the government don't bury this effort.
20 posted on 01/20/2004 3:23:13 AM PST by IrishCatholic (Finally, can we go to work now?)
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