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To: Wolfstar
I was specifically referring to those who say they will not vote for President Bush again because of the immigration proposal (or whatever issue du jour rankles them). It is they who are discarding the whole person over one policy disagreement, not I . . . am a conservative. Have been one all my adult life, although I don't know how self-professed "real" conservatives define the term

You used the term "real" conservative. I never did. You also assumed that I was voting against him because of one policy disagreement. You are only hearing what you want to hear and making a lot of unsupported assumptions. My point was that the case cannot be made that Bush, as a "whole" has been more in line with the Republican party platform than the Democratic platform in his domestic agenda. I still haven't heard an argument that this statement is wrong. Perhaps you can outline Bush's extensive conservative domestic agenda for me.

601 posted on 01/17/2004 12:31:31 PM PST by Texas Federalist
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To: Texas Federalist
My point was that the case cannot be made that Bush, as a "whole" has been more in line with the Republican party platform than the Democratic platform in his domestic agenda. I still haven't heard an argument that this statement is wrong. Perhaps you can outline Bush's extensive conservative domestic agenda for me.

It depends whether you mean what's actually been passed or what he would like to do.

  1. His judicial appointments have been consistently conservative - USUALLY THE SINGLE MOST ENDURING THING FROM A PRESIDENCY.
  2. Two tax cuts passed, including dividend and cap. gains.
  3. He signed the partial birth abortion ban.
  4. He tried but was unable to open Alaska north slope to drilling.
  5. He wants but was unable to have school vouchers at the federal level because of the Senate, although I believe some money was put in to have a pilot program. Some people may not get excited about that - their big issue is "End the Dept. of Ed", which isn't going to happen. I think it's important because first of all, they work, and second it involves choice, a major conservative principle. It's also clearly NOT a Democratic idea.
  6. He wants to have social security investment accounts but they wouldn't pass the current congress. Also clearly not a Democratic idea.
  7. The Bush Justice Dept. argued against the University of Michigan's affirmative action admissions before the SCOTUS. He didn't to condemn the SCOTUS decision in favor of UM, which is meaningless in the real world, but seemed to be real important to some people.
  8. Has opposed the Kyoto global warming treaty, and reversed some of the more extreme Clinton administration EPA actions.
  9. Has been more robust in my view in going after domestic terrorists than most Democrat administrations would.
  10. Wants to reform medicare to use the free market.

Against that there is what?

  1. Signed CFR
  2. Passed prescription drug plan - but even here the Dems wanted one about double the size.
  3. His illegal alien amnesty proposal.
  4. Has not made a significant effort to cut spending.
  5. Supported renewing the "assault weapons" ban.

What else is there? Many objected to his steel tariffs, although there's a lot of self described conservatives who want to stop free trade, so I don't know how you characterize that.

606 posted on 01/17/2004 3:03:14 PM PST by lasereye
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