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To: u-89
I admit that Bush hasn't shown the proper attention to the judge issue that he should (perhaps if there was no stupid Iraq war he would). But- he must know that for many many conservatives- most of whom feel "Betrayed" all ready to one degree or another on this site alone by Bush- would go absolutely Ape SH@T if Bush puts up anyone less than an equal to Bork in outlook for any judicial nomination. There are many conservatives who feel the same way as I do wether they support the Iraq war or not. If Bush does not deliver solid strict constructionist judges- many Conservatives are done with the GOP for good.

So yes- I "hope" Bush does the right thing. The possibility exists at least that he will. But I know for a fact that Dems won't do the right thing and we would get judges who would render opinions that would make Roe v Wade look like the work of judges with restraint.

The federal gov is spending more than a billion to "promote marriage"? Why not a national fitness program? Or national youth program? Or a program to make babies to build democracy abroad? Absolutley pathetic. And some will call this "conservative." Good to see you back U-89.

45 posted on 01/14/2004 4:56:01 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: Burkeman1
>Good to see you back U-89.

Why thank you Mr. Burke. I'm self employed but do not have a permanent long term business - I have these ventures and schemes and sometimes it takes up a lot of my time while others it's more laid back. Been hectic of late so haven't had time to post in months but I've been lurking.

Speaking of lurking I noticed here and elsewhere that you will be voting for Bush based solely on the judge issue and as you just replied to me you "hope" Bush will do the right thing. Well I plan on being the skunk at your garden party but please remember I'm at least a friendly skunk.

Thomas Sowell said once that conservatives were like Charlie Brown and the GOP was like Lucy. Lucy would want to hold the football while Charlie ran and kicked it but she would pull the ball away at the last second and Charlie would go for a flying loop. Lucy did this every time and Charlie was leery of her but each new time she approached him she promised this time it would be different and Charlie went along in good faith and got hurt. We now have a GOP congress and the presidency and they are spending more and enlarging the government faster than the Dems we railed against ever did but now the cry is if we only had more senators things would be different. Or knowing how people like you feel if only for the judgeships and nothing else conservatives should support the GOP or finally the old scare tactics - would you rather have a the Democrats in power??? Well we now know the Dems couldn't do worse on anything other than judges so as you conclude the judges are the last hope. As I mentioned in my other post the judge business is a very shaky bet.

To be brutally honest I believe the game is over. Conservatives are like the body of a chicken that was beheaded, frantically runing around not knowing yet that its dead. The old republic is dead and gone and it can not be retrieved. Even if there were more so called conservative judges they will not stop the socialism as it is not politically possible to do so. They will not stop the unconstitutional activities of the Feds as the federal programs have 60 plus years of precedent. They will not stop the dissolving of the the borders as the elites, even the conservative elites no longer believe in the nation state like the late Bob Bartley of the WSJ. As Buchanan said in an article today the numbers are mounting where the culture of the nation is being irredeemably changed. Bush/Rove know that they need conservatives for now but they are not the future - the future is ethnic group politics and socialism. Within a few election cycles the conservatives will be no longer needed as the numbers of true believers in limited government shrink and their numbers will have been replaced by 3rd world parasites and moderate, centrists and ex-Dems. The old right is now being portrayed as extremist and racist and will only continue to be marginalized and finally when safely no longer needed ostracized. The only hope is for the Bush to lose. In divided government the small amount of conservatives in the house can block the worst aspects of a Dem president and the 5th column republicans in congress. The only other hope is the Free State Project where if we concentrate our forces we may have one state out of the 50 where there is some liberty left.

47 posted on 01/14/2004 7:13:26 PM PST by u-89
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