[olliemb]

I disagree with you and the National Review. President Bush is the only one who has tried to do something about the millions of undocumented illegals who use our hospitals, social services, schools, etc. Instead, the National Review, yourself and others such as Tancredo, believe that sending them back is the only solution. There is no workable situation considered.

Just imagine troops raiding homes and sending back in trains and buses under guard the illegals. Imagine inquiring of all that look like illegals (that might include me)as to identification proving I was an American.

Many of the illegals have children born in the United States and therefore what would you do with their children.?

The brazero program used to exist in the United States. At least President Bush is attempting to tackle the problem. For 8 years under Clinton nothing got done and even before that nothing got done. Why do you think that the immigration laws are not enforced? B/c they are very difficult to do and no one wants to do it is my guess.

And Tancredo wants to pass a bill that denies all illegals medical/social care. Back to asking everyone in the ER if they have insurance, American ID before being treated. Is this what the conservatives really want?

I am curious--what do you think is a good solution to the millions of illegals already living here in the United States?

[MegaSilver]

I disagree with you and the National Review. President Bush is the only one who has tried to do something about the millions of undocumented illegals who use our hospitals, social services, schools, etc.

You have a right to your opinion, but if you haven't already, I'd suggest picking up a copy of the latest edition of National Review. The "Amnesty, Again" article deals with this objection ("Well, we have to do SOMEthing.") It's a valid point, but keep in mind that we already DID something, back in 1986. The reasoning was, "We'll give some amnesties, then work on sealing the border."

Well, that was a crock. After the plan, illegal immigration actually INcreased. We should have sealed the border first, actually enforced the laws against hiring illegal aliens, and after we'd proven that we were reducing the illegal population, THEN we could talk about granting a few amnesties.

Just imagine troops raiding homes and sending back in trains and buses under guard the illegals. Imagine inquiring of all that look like illegals (that might include me)as to identification proving I was an American.

Obviously, that wouldn't work. But it would be a start to first round up and deport all KNOWN illegal aliens.

The brazero program used to exist in the United States. At least President Bush is attempting to tackle the problem.

Yes, I will give him credit for that. I don't think he's doing the right thing to tackle the problem, but at least we've sparked a debate, and I suppose that's the light in this tunnel.

I am curious--what do you think is a good solution to the millions of illegals already living here in the United States?

Personally, I favor the model proposed by the National Review:

1. Deport all illegals who are currently on the list to be deported.
2. Round up all KNOWN illegal aliens and deport them.
3. Actually enforce the laws against hiring illegal aliens. Punish businesses who hire them.
4. Once illegal aliens see that there isn't a job market open to them, a lot of them will take the hint and leave.
5. Begin work on an infrastructure that can support the sealing of our borders.
6. Once the infrastructure is in place, test it for 8-10 years, make sure that it is actually decreasing the illegal population, and THEN discuss possibly giving amnesty to some of the remaining illegals.

It's not that I'm opposed to any and all amnesties. It's just that I am highly skeptical of them, and I think that they should be saved for last, not enacted first. Basically, I think Bush has it backwards.