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The Final Straw? Accountability for President Bush
1/13/2004 | Andy Obermann

Posted on 01/13/2004 11:43:35 AM PST by AndyObermann

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To: No More Gore Anymore
They certainly won't if you help one of the nine dwarves.
141 posted on 01/13/2004 3:58:41 PM PST by Dane
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To: Ohioan
Great rant--you are soooooo right. I will now vote for a democrat and everyday I ask myself, why do I ever want a republican as president who will veto abortion, appoint conservative judges and of course loves his God and is not afraid to say so. Oh, shucks, I am so thankful for your rants!!! And best of all--let's ask Germany and France what they would like for us to do next time we feel threatened by the enemy.

Loco!!!
142 posted on 01/13/2004 3:59:06 PM PST by olliemb
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To: Dane
Being intimated to vote for any person, whether it is a Republican or a Democrat is not the freedom my ancestors died for.

I won't do it.

143 posted on 01/13/2004 4:01:58 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ("were it not for the brave , there would be no land of the free")
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To: eskimo
"Many do not."

Yeah, they are called democrats.
144 posted on 01/13/2004 4:02:51 PM PST by olliemb
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Being intimated to vote for any person, whether it is a Republican or a Democrat is not the freedom my ancestors died for.

I won't do it

Did you mean "intimidated". I didn't intimidate you. All I did was give you a fact and that is that all of the nine dwarves would raise taxes.

Sorry that you get so intimidated and defensive about modern American political facts. That's your problem.

145 posted on 01/13/2004 4:07:51 PM PST by Dane
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Take a stroll over to du, they think W is a right wing zealot.! The alternative is unthinkable. I am sure when the moment of truth hits you, rationality will prevail.
146 posted on 01/13/2004 4:10:12 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: No More Gore Anymore
I shan't get into the homeschool " battle " with you on this thread; it's NOT the place for it.

The taxes, for school/education, that's the most horrid/onerous are the state and local ones.

"FAIR" is a word used by children and Liberals.

Unfortunately, what's wrong with a parents' free for all, re education, is that many parents are incapable of/uninterested in homeschooling, there aren't enough good schools, extant,to take all of those who wish to transfer to them ( and YES, I am for vouchers, BTW ),and to some extent, the nation has more than a wee vested interest in the education of the populace. Something needs to be done...it's just that the teacher unions and Liberals have a far stronger, more vocal, much more active voice now and stop everything that SHOULD be done.

147 posted on 01/13/2004 4:14:08 PM PST by nopardons
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To: olliemb
Yeah, they are called democrats.

They are called conservatives.

148 posted on 01/13/2004 4:14:44 PM PST by eskimo
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To: No More Gore Anymore
I didn't engage in name calling.

You read what I said, even though you are now denying it.

I made valid statements and did so calmly and logically.

The only " hysteria " I see, is on the other side. ;^)

149 posted on 01/13/2004 4:16:41 PM PST by nopardons
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To: reelfoot
Yes, but first we have to remove the roadblocks, like the RATS in the Senate.
150 posted on 01/13/2004 4:43:05 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: Uncle Fud
I sense, please correct me if I am wrong, a "hopeless factor" in your response. What I hear you telling me is that there is no hope.

As much as it disappoints me to say this, not everyone in this country is as hard right as we are. They consider themselves "reasonable moderates", having been thus conditioned by the media and liberal elite to think that way. They have to be led, not driven. If you force your agenda on them, they will rush into Ted Kennedy's arms. That is why I say we need to use incrementalism.

151 posted on 01/13/2004 4:46:07 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: AndyObermann
Oh, come on! Show me how your hard right principles have carried the show! The Contract With America was a success until we pushed too far too fast and scared the moderates. And we played right into the hands of the libs/media.

Haven't you ever hunted deer? You don't get one by barrel-assing into the woods, bustin' brush with every step! You move slowly, cautiously, and sneak up on em!

152 posted on 01/13/2004 4:48:53 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: Howlin
Good numbers. I will have to watch Dan Rather tonight to get his take on them! :-)
153 posted on 01/13/2004 4:50:01 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Why not try controlling the debate with reasoned logic instead of hysteria?

It is difficult to make an irrational, emotional outburst seem reasoned.

154 posted on 01/13/2004 4:58:32 PM PST by eskimo
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To: Redleg Duke


Yeah, but this lot have handed their rifles over to the deer.


155 posted on 01/13/2004 5:02:58 PM PST by Eris
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To: nopardons
I really can not discuss things with people who resort to name calling and illogical statements.

Sorry it is the truth. Red stop at name calling.

156 posted on 01/13/2004 5:12:05 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ("were it not for the brave , there would be no land of the free")
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To: 50sDad
Yep, President Dean will be much more conservative.

Try reading the entire article first. The guy isn't saying he won't vote for Bush. He says in fact:

"The President will most likely be re-elected, and he will most likely get my vote,"

Bush better hope that this latest thing does get him plenty more hispanic votes though because he has certainly lost many votes from the very ones who put him in office to begin with.
157 posted on 01/13/2004 5:22:43 PM PST by honeygrl (If I had a dollar for every time I had 60 cents, I would be in Canada.)
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To: Eris
Which lot are you referring to?
158 posted on 01/13/2004 5:24:30 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: Redleg Duke


The lot in charge are leading the hunt, aren't they?

159 posted on 01/13/2004 5:27:10 PM PST by Eris
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To: funkywbr
"What Andy doesnt understand is that President Bush if elected and given the Senators he needs to work with will CHANGE! "

And what makes you think that? Or do you mean change as in becoming even more socialist since he doesn't have to worry about votes anymore? If he can get away with as much as he has near election time and still get re-elected, it scares me to think how much MORE he'll get away with next term when he doesn't have to worry about what we think. I can only hope some of the new guys in the house and senate will refuse to be yes-men like the rest of them have been so far.
160 posted on 01/13/2004 5:28:16 PM PST by honeygrl (If I had a dollar for every time I had 60 cents, I would be in Canada.)
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