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To: Gabz
By government mandate of ALL establishments being non-smoking - those that did that on their own have now had their market stripped away from them.

Government mandates, also known as laws, usually do apply to everyone. In my city bars are required to close at 2 am. I'm sure that some bar owners would like to stay open to 3 or 4. In fact some do so by not serving alcohol.

As I understand most of these non-smoking regulations, they are not for the good of the patrons but for the good of the employees. The idea is that working in a smoke filled room is unhealthy. The government long ago decided that it is in the public interest to try to make sure working conditions are not harmful.

106 posted on 01/13/2004 11:48:02 PM PST by Looking for Diogenes
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To: Looking for Diogenes
Government mandates, also known as laws, usually do apply to everyone

Usually, but not always, and most especially in the case of smoking bans. Smoking bans apply to ALL businesses (with some exceptions such as fraternal and veterans locatons)yet only those holding a liquor license will be put out of business for violations. The local coffee shop can continue to violate the ban and only face larger fines, but the bar across the street stands to lose it's liquor license after a 3rd offense.

As I understand most of these non-smoking regulations, they are not for the good of the patrons but for the good of the employees.

I see you have fallen for the Bravo Sierra of the anti smokers.

You obviously have not read many of these laws and ordinances very carefully. For example the Delaware smoking ban specifically states in it that one of the purposes is to keep children from seeing smoking to promote the idea that smoking is socially unacceptable. Last time I checked children are not permitted in bars in Delaware and children are not employees. And in my experience, the vast majority of bar employees are smokers - why would they want the government to protect them from themselves???????

I know, I know there have been all kinds of stories about wait staff and bartenders that are so THRILLED about the bans.........of course you hear very little from the majority that are not, because it is not politically correct for the media to portray smoking bans as anything but good.

122 posted on 01/14/2004 7:27:39 AM PST by Gabz (smoke gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business -swat'em)
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