[Jim Noble]

Well, the notion that the War of the Southern Rebellion had something to do with slavery certainly antedates the twentieth century.

Yes, the cite from honest Abe was provocative, but surely you do not dispute that there are others?

Maybe the Declaration of Causes of the South Carolina Convention will jog your memory:

"...they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to enloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes..."

[kilowhskey]

Thank you for your mention of the Declaration of Causes. I have bookmarked the four documents for later study.

[kilowhskey]

Thank you for your mention of the Declaration of Causes. I have bookmarked the four documents for later study.

Kenneth Stampp, writing in The Peculiar Institution, at p.408 states that the "...profit per hand at a minimum of $250 per year." In current dollars that amount is $4,810. Thus the economics were quite compelling, though rarely discussed.

[stand watie]

the source you cite from SC was not/is not credible for this reason:

NOBODY authorized the "declarations", except the authors themselves;few even knew they were published;even less people CARED what a handfull of slaveowners thought/wrote/published.

only about 5-6% of southerners owned slaves;almost NOBODY who was NOT a slave owner cared if ANYONE owned any. this was true in both the north & south.

Professor Henry Tyrone Bliss,a prominent black scholar from Dillard University said in 1998 at the LA Consortium of Scholars in Social Sciences at Shreveport that "in 1860 there were not 10,000 people in all of the USA who cared a damn about the plight of slaves. hardly anyone was willing to fight even one battle over slavery;nobody was willing to fight a major civil war over a dying institution."

face it, DIS-honest abe was LYING through his teeth (it is the NATURE of politicians to LIE!) about what the WBTS was about. in point of fact, lincoln HATED & FEARED all "persons of colour", as well as Jews, Roman Catholics, Latinos, recent immigrants & "muddy coloured people" (mixed-bloods like ME for instance!).

lincoln was a stone RACIST & anti-Semite of the most vicious sort. any fair reading of his private correspondence (rather than his public pronouncements) will force you to admit that he was a "man with forked tongue" & "a man of two hearts" (NEITHER is a compliment among AIs!), NOT a truthspeaker.

free dixie,sw

[WhiskeyPapa]

They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes.

This was just a flat lie by the South Carolinians,BTW.

Walt