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To: WhiskeyPapa
Who fired the first shot?

The USS Harriet Lane - one of the ships in Lincoln's fleet.

198 posted on 01/16/2004 1:39:47 AM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
Who fired the first shot?

The USS Harriet Lane - one of the ships in Lincoln's fleet.

The Lane had no orders to fire on the Nashville.

The rebel government defintely sent orders to reduce Fort Sumter.

As Non-Sequitur points out, the insurgent government needed a provocation to galvanize the upper south.

They sowed the wind, and they reaped the whirlwind.

Walt

208 posted on 01/16/2004 2:18:14 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa (Virtue is the uncontested prize.)
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To: GOPcapitalist
The USS Harriet Lane - one of the ships in Lincoln's fleet.

Nonsense. The first shot had been fired months before at the Star of the West. The most recent ones had been fired at the Rhoda Shannon, a peaceful merchantship whose only crime was flying the Stars and Stripes. In between there had been dozens of hostile actions, seizure of federal property and facilities, threatened armed action on the part of the Davis regime. The Harriet Lane was, if anything, the revenue service doing its job of identifying unknown merchantmen.

211 posted on 01/16/2004 3:38:42 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: GOPcapitalist
[discredited poster] Who fired the first shot?

[You, replying] The USS Harriet Lane - one of the ships in Lincoln's fleet.

According to my sources, in Charleston harbor it was on April 3rd, 1861, when Confederate batteries opened on the schooner Rhoda H. Shannon. In Virginia waters, it was on May 9, when the U.S.S. Yankee fired on Virginia militia batteries located on Gloucester Point, blows between Virginia and the United States having not yet been exchanged.

Sorry to see you having to revisit this thoroughly refuted and discredited claptrap and buncombe. I see the militia statutes are being invoked again to revoke the reserved powers of the States (the exercise of which was protected by the Tenth Amendment, which being later than and an amendment to the Constitution, alters the same from its Federalist conception and carves the States' rights in stone).

220 posted on 01/16/2004 3:59:40 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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