Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: veronica
We are talking about the Israeli Air Force not some rag tag third rate power. This is an airforce that could strike and kill aircraft and tanks protected by earthwork fortifications (with one bomb). If it was any US ship that I ever sailed on they were flying the flag from the mast. One qualification for a pilot is exceptional eyesight.

We also know from now declassified traffic that the US Sixth Fleet launched aircraft to support the USS Liberty which were CALLED BACK. Presumably the recall order came from the DC area not the area commander. Once again the message traffic would be useful.

We neet to see the actual message traffic to know. There is a good chance that the NSA may have copies, but try to pry it out of them.

10 posted on 01/13/2004 6:49:28 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (What have you done for the Fleet today?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: Citizen Tom Paine
I wonder how many investigations, forums etc., it will take for certain folks to accept the facts. 20? 30? 40?

Now the current State Dept. and CIA agree with the other investigations, and yet, the usual suspects are still going on. Not exactly a surprise.

13 posted on 01/13/2004 7:01:59 AM PST by veronica ("Clinton happens"....F. Lee Mark Levin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies ]

To: Citizen Tom Paine
This article is from someone who's starting to get worried about what his reception will be at the gates to Heaven.
14 posted on 01/13/2004 7:02:24 AM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies ]

To: Citizen Tom Paine
We are talking about the Israeli Air Force not some rag tag third rate power. This is an airforce that could strike and kill aircraft and tanks protected by earthwork fortifications (with one bomb).

They may be good and, given the threat they face and the training they undergo, they may even be the best...but they aren't perfect. Anyone can make a mistake, especially in the fog of war. There have now been many reports by our own government that have concluded that this was a mistake - will anything convince you?

One qualification for a pilot is exceptional eyesight.

True enough. However, omnipotence is not on the qualification list. Remember, we are dealing with human beings. These particular human beings had been fighting a war for several days, after several weeks of extremely high tensions, a war for the very survival of their nation. Don't you think it possible that they might have been tired? Ask our pilots from the latest conflict if they were tired after a few days of multiple sorties, in between which they were debriefed about the old mission and had to prepare for the new one - and being under incredible stress the entire time. The Israelis in '67 had it even worse - remember, this was a war after several weeks of extremely high tensions, during which time the Israeli AF had no choice but to keep large numbers of fighters in the air at all times.

15 posted on 01/13/2004 7:07:56 AM PST by Ancesthntr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies ]

To: Citizen Tom Paine
"We also know from now declassified traffic that the US Sixth Fleet launched aircraft to support the USS Liberty which were CALLED BACK. Presumably the recall order came from the DC area not the area commander. Once again the message traffic would be useful."

Thats because the planes launched were armed with NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

Tapes were released last year, BTW. I'm sure a websearch will turn up transcripts.
20 posted on 01/13/2004 7:29:26 AM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies ]

To: Citizen Tom Paine

OH, BULLSHIT!

The United States bombed CANADIANS in Afghanistan. WAS THAT INTENTIONAL????

The United States bombed BRITISH TROOPS in Iraq. WAS THAT INTENTIONAL?

Your double standard shows that you are an anti-semitic, anti-American, racist.

If the USA bombs Canadian and British troops, HEY, that’s okay. So, sorry!

But if Israel makes a mistake in the middle of a war, you take a completely different approach. WHY? You’re a bigot.

And let’s not forget! The USS Liberty was ORDERED OUT OF THE AREA, AND VIOLATED ITS ORDERS. How could the USS Liberty make such a gigantic mistake? How could the greatest Navy in the world, make such a stupendous blunder?

Yet, you are unwilling to apply the same standard to Israel? WHY IS THAT?


78 posted on 06/16/2007 6:53:03 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.ColdPeace.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson