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Frontpage Interview: Ann Coulter
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 1/12/04 | Jamie Glazov

Posted on 01/12/2004 2:30:42 AM PST by kattracks

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To: Bob_Dobbs
Ms. Coulter makes statements which simultaneously sound outrageous--and are plainly true.
In the article alluded to above, she called for an invasion of all Moslem countries with the goal of converting their one-billion inhabitants to Christianity--two days after 9/11! Plainly true? Satire? Was "satire" possible in the wake of 9/11? Oh, I see, I was supposed to roll about on the floor convulsed with laughter at yet another of her "penetrating insights." My mistake.
That column by Ms. Coulter was her subtle way of telling muslims that if 911 was a joke, she didn't get it.

And of telling you to gut it up because 911 was not a joke.

Bottom line: criticism of Ann post-911 column is so 9/10.


61 posted on 01/13/2004 5:55:42 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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To: Bob_Dobbs
Shove it Bob. Your obviously some faggot democrat.
62 posted on 01/13/2004 6:02:10 AM PST by ohioman
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To: Bob_Dobbs
Ann Coulter rubbing the mental midgets of leftist elite the wrong way is just toooooooo bad.

This nation for better or worse is divided into three kinds of people a third are anti-constitution (anti-God), the middle third sits on the fence calling themselves independent and throw their lot with the side that appears to be winning. The final third understands that there is good and evil and seeks to fight against evil and for good.

Ann's looks are far more important to the leftists blowhards of this nation. Conservatives see Ann's beauty through and through. It is most delicious to hear the left dwell on her appearance because they are unable to take her on with what she says.

Contrast the big fat idiot Al Franken's claim to fame, not from his own thoughts but trashing another based upon looks.

Leftist are shallow whiners who worship at the altar of themselves and will enslave a free people to gain and maintain power.



63 posted on 01/13/2004 6:23:28 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Bob_Dobbs
"...But their viewpoints, as liberals, are the same. I asked how we can tell the true liberals from those who are temporarily fooled..." "...Did Socrates use insults?.."

Being a liberal means that you know the issues, and have come to wrong conclusions. That is different from being a democrat, and simply being fooled into voting a certain way, by, say, a "new democrat" who runs as a "centrist." This is the line of demarcation between those who have a mental defect, and those who merely don't pay attention. It's easy to tell the difference. One will speak like Ted Kennedy, and the other will just say things like "um, I don't really pay that much attention..."

"...Do you believe that all liberals are mentally ill?.."

Yes.


"...Is there a difference between being wrong and being mentally ill?.."

Yes.


"... If dubious political convictions are merely a function of incorrect assessments and not mental illness, then those convictions can be changed..."

Yep, that's right. And that's precisely the problem. Liberals can't think rationally, or they wouldn't BE liberals. It's not lack of knowledge that separates this cult of socialism from logical discourse, it's the central processing unit where this knowledge is sent that is broken. I notice this every time I hear one of "them" speaking. They have the information, they just pervert it. How would you persuade Dennis Kucinich that the little green men aren't waiting in the wings to make space treaties with him? Think you can talk Martin Sheen into understanding the war in Afghanistan, or Iraq? I hope this helps you understand Ann.
64 posted on 01/13/2004 6:23:56 AM PST by jim35
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To: Bob_Dobbs
Now, before responding to the previous sentence, take three deep breaths. Ask yourself: What if someone had just taken a nasty shot at Srdja Trifkovik, Buckley, or Buchanan? You would, even if quite impressed by them, shrug your shoulders and scroll along. But with Coulter it's different. Why, it's as if I had just taken a nasty shot at your...girlfriend...
There is no gainsaying the fact the people are reacted to based on their appearance. That is why TV is such a terrible medium for political discussion. (If you could see my handsome profile right now, you would be so dazzled that you would not be able to concentrate on the elegant logic of my words!)

I heard and saw on TV a woman spouting outrageous "family planning" propaganda a couple of years ago, and I was struck by the fact that what sounded reasonable coming from an attractive woman would have sounded contemptible in the mouth of a man.

And herein lies the appeal of Coulter. No, it's not her ferocious powers of intellection, which consist largely of hyperbole, ad hominems, and non sequiturs held loosely together with sticky tape. She's pretty. She writes what she's knows you want to hear. It's a brilliant schtick. Imitators, seeing the six-figure book deals she gets, will multiply like toadstools. When confronted by enthusiasts, skepticism is a virtue.
It is no good trying to impress me with hypercritical parsing of obvious hyperbole. Cynicism is no virtue, and that is what I see in your words. There was one page in Treason that I didn't understand, and didn't understand why she wanted to make whatever point she was going for. But that aside, I consider it thoughtful and well written.

Typically she makes an argument, and you want to think that "the truth lies somewhere in the middle"--but she anticipates that reaction and skewers it with ridicule, and you are left with no defense. Of course if you're an outright liberal, your response to that is to make a lying claim that her argument was flawed--when your real beef is that she is pointing out the truth.

She gets away with saying things that a man wouldn't--but since she's usually pointing out that the emperor has no clothes, that is not altogether a bad thing.


65 posted on 01/13/2004 6:33:46 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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To: Bob_Dobbs
lower circles of conservatism

If I take a bath can I join your country club?

66 posted on 01/13/2004 6:53:08 AM PST by Stentor
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To: Bob_Dobbs
The best way to "convert" anyone is via a rational dialogue. Did Socrates use insults? A.C. seems hell-bent on poisoning the political climate, making discourse impossible.
You may be young, but some of us are old enough to remember the political climate being plenty toxic before Ms. Coulter was ever on TV or ever published anything.

The reason for that is not "nasty conservatives" but journalism. The trouble with journalism is that it fits Reagan's description of big government--"It's like a baby--all demanding and complaining on one end, and a complete lack of responsibility on the other." And carrying on a Socratic dialog with a baby only gets you so far.

In the bad old days before Reagan was a serious candidate for president, Democrats and Republicans had different positions on the deficit than they do now. Back then, Republicans thought it was conservative to raise tax rates to cover government spending with revenue without regard to the effect of tax rates on the economy. Democrats wanted to spend and didn't worry about responsibility for taxes. The Republicans were so eager to "balance the budget" that they put the Democrats in the catbird seat--Democrats got credit for the pork barrel, and Republicans were stuck with the responsibility of the taxes.

It was a real racket, and explains a lot about the weakness of the Republican Party in Congress (40 years in the wilderness).

During the Ford Administration, Congressman Jack Kemp stepped up and said that the reason government revenue was low wasn't because tax rates were too low, but because they were too high. And the only solution for the stagnation of the time was to cut tax rates in the teeth of the deficit (exactly as the solution for a truck's slowing down while going uphill is not to shift to a higher gear but may be to downshift to a lower one). Ford (and certainly Jimmy Carter) never took the clue, and we suffered through the seventies until Reagan adopted Kemp's diagnosis of the economy. Which was by then not only stagnated but beginning to hyperinflate.

With the success of Reagan-Kemp-Roth the Democrats lost their electoral gravy train. And since people become Democrat politicians because they lust after power (a disease that Republicans tend to acquire drinking the water in Washington), the loss of that gravy train has made them bitter, dead-end, rule-or-ruin types of the Hillary persuason.

Do you believe that all liberals are mentally ill? Is there a difference between being wrong and being mentally ill?
Do I believe that Dean's voters would rather see America defeated in Iraq and another 911 in America than to see Bush reelected? Yes. Is that mental illness? You tell me.

All I know is that Socratic dialog doesn't work when the other guy is unwilling to answer a reasonable question reasonably because he knows where an honest answer would lead. And that having someone tell the truth with the bark on is the only thing you can do at that point. Otherwise you end up negotiating with yourself--you are the only one who concedes anything.


67 posted on 01/13/2004 7:44:05 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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To: ohioman
"Shove it Bob. Your (that should be you're) obviously some faggot democrat."

Ah, the ever erudite ohioman weighs in with his towering intellect. I see you still have this terrible paranoia about homosexuals.
68 posted on 01/13/2004 8:38:01 AM PST by kegler4
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To: kegler4
It does not take a "towering intellect" to recognize that homo is wrong in the same sense as drug or alcohol addiction. Of course, I could never come close to your smug arrogance.
69 posted on 01/13/2004 9:26:45 AM PST by ohioman
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To: Bob_Dobbs
It's as if she were trying really, really, really super hard to be uber conservative.

While you're chewing on food for thought, consider the possibility that she just really believes what she says.

Stranger things have happened.

Nobody tought William F. Buckley was trying to hard, but perhaps that was because it took so much effort to understand him. Maybe, if Ann is trying "too hard" at anything, it's trying too hard to be approachable by the masses who will always prefer liberalism because it's the gutless solution.

Shalom.

70 posted on 01/13/2004 10:13:45 AM PST by ArGee (Scientific reasoning makes it easier to support gross immorality.)
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To: ThirstyMan
My guess is the answer to both questions is "no" and that's why you don't get her.

Mr. Dobbs is a member of the Church of the Sub-Genius


71 posted on 01/13/2004 10:44:12 AM PST by martin gibson
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To: jim35
"Even a true conservative might (MIGHT, I reiterate) confuse Ann's theses with simple self-serving vitriol, but I'm unable to find flaw with her logic."

And that is THE bottomline regarding Ann Coulter -- "logic," of which NO ONE has been able to refute. And from not in the least, Shakespearean trolls.

BTW, great post.

72 posted on 01/13/2004 11:52:26 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion; Bob_Dobbs
"Do I believe that Dean's voters would rather see America defeated in Iraq and another 911 in America than to see Bush reelected? Yes. Is that mental illness? You tell me."

The most devastating answer I've yet heard to the question: "Does liberalism = mental illness?"

73 posted on 01/13/2004 12:12:24 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: kattracks
Great article. Thanks for posting. Will read the rest of the comments later.
76 posted on 01/14/2004 12:53:52 AM PST by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: Bob_Dobbs
David Horowitz has some problems with Coulter's book.
Yes.

And many Freepers have substantive problems with David Horiwitz's problems.


78 posted on 01/14/2004 4:19:30 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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To: Bob_Dobbs
Do I believe that Dean's voters would rather see America defeated in Iraq and another 911 in America than to see Bush reelected? Yes. Is that mental illness? You tell me.
You came to the wrong guy for a defense of Dean's enthusiasts. I'm interested in the general issue of the psychological/epistemological status of false convictions and took issue with Coulter's ex cathedra pronouncement. Labeling subversives as "mentally ill" is common practice in some countries (China). I'm opposed to it in principle until actual medical evidence says otherwise. Our disagreement may be regarding the definition of "insane," which is probably best saved for another year ;0)
I think we can agree that support for Dean is not limited to people who are sufficiently delusional as to evoke actual pity, and that you don't go around trying to round such people up and subject them to psychotropic drugs.

And that Dean must not be elected president of the United States.


79 posted on 01/14/2004 5:30:32 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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To: kattracks
Unvarnished-Truth-Disguised-As-Sarcasm Bump! She just makes my day!
80 posted on 01/14/2004 5:39:26 AM PST by Phaedrus
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