The employer in the United States wants a permanent class of people who come without education, without the English language and without legality. They can't form unions. They can't bargain collectively. They are a permanent menial force that can be exploited, and they like that. Q: Do you think either California or the federal government has the brains or willpower to implement a sound, humane immigration policy? A: I do, because we used to have one. We never would have had this conversation in 1950. There was no conversation about a wall or a fence. It was very simple: If you came across the border illegally, you were deported. The employer was not to hire people who were here illegally. It's very simple to do, but it just requires a degree of courage.
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