[cpst12]

>>I haven't seen much contrition from all the Freepers who "just knew" Arnold was going to raise taxes.

No he hasn't raised taxes yet...but has jacked up many fees, some several hundered percent, which to me, is the same thing as a tax increase....

and lets not forget, the key to getting his whole plan to work is to BORROW $15,000,000,000 to pay for what CA couldn't otherwise afford....

Now if he had not planned on BORROWING money to pay for things, then maybe, just maybe, I'd have an ounce of respect for what he is trying to do. Every dollor borrowed today is a future tax dollar that needs to be collected (plus interest).

[Tempest]

Which fees have been increased several hundred percent??? And aren't these fees all privilage uses and not entitlements??

As far as the borrowing goes you can thank your liberal buddies for the neccesity of that.

So let me get this straight?

You don't want borrowing?
You don't want increased fees?
You don't want higher taxes?

Hmmmmm.....

So what you want is bankruptcy??? Which would then definately lead to all 3 of the above things that you're crying about?!?!?

Oh boy! That's logical.

[Bonaparte]

Right on the mark! Papering over the debt with a $15B bond just gets us further into debt. I can see why he's doing it though. Without the enticement of all that bond money pouring into Sacramento, the democrats won't even consider his current budget plan. Hopefully, the democrats' budget concessions won't be tied to the success of this insane bond measure.

[mrs tiggywinkle]

**No he hasn't raised taxes yet...but has jacked up many fees, some several hundered percent, which to me, is the same thing as a tax increase.... **

What fees are he raised several hundred percent?

[LS]

Not exactly: a bond is a loan and can be paid for by higher tax revenues that result from lower tax rates, just as Andrew Mellon repaid the WW I "Liberty" Bonds with lower tax rates. The bottom line is many of you guys were WRONG, WRONG, WRONG about Arnold and won't admit it.