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To: Owen
why would alleged conservatives be looking to government to solve immigration issues

Please stop now. I've heard some absurd and embarrassing arguments defending this initiative, but this takes the prize. Border protection and immigration control are one of the few legitimate constitutional responsibilities of the federal government.

If you want to defend Bush and this initiative, fine, but please use honest arguments.

As far as others' suggestions on this thread that all who have expressed disapproval of this immigration farce are simply DU disruptors, then I guess DU disruptors have taken over the conservative media as well: National Review, Laura Ingraham and even Rush Limbaugh -- to name but a few -- have now been possessed by the Democratic devil.

FR used to be a place for reasoned discussion of federal, political and constitutional issues, not a dewey-eyed, paranoid fan club organized to defend every action of a man who is above all, a politician, and a damned good one at that.

Let's stay in the reality zone.

81 posted on 01/09/2004 9:07:37 AM PST by browardchad
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To: browardchad
why would alleged conservatives be looking to government to solve immigration issues

Please stop now. I've heard some absurd and embarrassing arguments defending this initiative, but this takes the prize. Border protection and immigration control are one of the few legitimate constitutional responsibilities of the federal government.

But as I clearly and explicitly said, it is a fundamentally philosophical issue and not Constitution relevant. The issue is extremism in conservatism and this is a concept that pursues purity. A pure conservative would not be looking to the government to solve problems. Those who are cannot be pure conservatives. They are, instead, people who look to Big Brother to create a society they prefer.

90 posted on 01/09/2004 9:45:58 AM PST by Owen
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To: browardchad
Stranger is the argument that while we lack the resources and "cannot set up border guard towers every 500 feet" we will have the resources to do background checks and follow up on perhaps millions of "guest" workers.

I am not saying we should set up such towers but how can a GOPer argue they cannot increase the security of the borders while at the same time argue to increase the resources to monitor people once they have reached base and tagged in as "safe"!

In this case secruing our borders does not garner votes while "monitoring" those that made it past our security does.

I am not even touching on the it’s a post 9/11 world in which we should use more of our INS resources to monitor unfriendlies rather than cheap labor.

Listen to Raush's last half hour of today. He summed up what we are all facing here quite nicely.
102 posted on 01/09/2004 1:39:00 PM PST by Kay Soze (How will refocusing INS resources from the war on terror to millions of Mexicans make US safer?)
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