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DUMPING CONSERVATIVES AT THE BORDER
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| 1/8/2004
| LAURA INGRAHAM
Posted on 01/08/2004 3:34:13 PM PST by kellynla
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Why would they be angry?If I was in a long line, like back in the 1970's gas shortages line at the filling stations, and someone who had not been waiting in line got to pull ahead of others who had been waiting and got to stay there, well I'd be kind of mad.
To: Poohbah
Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the US Army and maybe the US Navy from domestic law enforcement not protected the borders. I am not in favor of an armed border our military has better things to do. I see no reason why the US Mexican border can't operate like the US Canada border. Just implement my two suggestions.
462
posted on
01/09/2004 5:27:17 PM PST
by
jpsb
To: jpsb
Do two things and you will end the problem, punish and I mean really punish employers that employ illegals and deny illegals socail services (not emergency medical). My two cents and there is no damn reason these two things can't be done.When the first soccer mom gets nailed for hiring day labor, you're going to have a PR disaster on your hands.
People are against illegal immigration in the same way that they're in favor of motherhood and against sin. It's a generically accepted ideal.
Doing what you describe would inconvenience the American public, and that will go over about as well as a brick balloon. Generic ideals tend to fall apart when unpleasant specifics come up.
Welcome to America, where everyone wants to go to heaven, and nobody wants to buy a ticket.
463
posted on
01/09/2004 5:27:55 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
To: Poohbah
Yes, if it's not done in the way Congress has provided for elsewhere in US law regarding national defense.So there's no problem then with using the military to secure our borders, as long as it is done in the way Congress has provided for elsewhere in the law.
464
posted on
01/09/2004 5:30:21 PM PST
by
kevao
To: Poohbah
When the first soccer mom gets nailed for hiring day labor, you're going to have a PR disaster on your hands.
Punishment should fit the crime mom pays a $100 fine. No PR disaster here. Wal-mart pays a million dollar fine. No PR diaster there either. You asked for solutions I am giving you solutions that will work.
465
posted on
01/09/2004 5:32:03 PM PST
by
jpsb
To: brownie
This is pure, speculative, b.s. No kidding, and, as I've heard soo many times before...
OH NOOOO! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE !
if we gotta pay an extra 10 cents for a head of lettuce.
To: kevao
So there's no problem then with using the military to secure our borders, as long as it is done in the way Congress has provided for elsewhere in the law.Uh-huh. And Congress hasn't provided for doing this, and will not do so, unless you can convince them to reactivate the draft to get the needed manpower.
Oh, and you'd have to draft all women of child-bearing age, too. Not to guard the border--to produce the next generation of troops to guard the border with, and the next generation of taxpayers to pay for all of those troops.
467
posted on
01/09/2004 5:33:47 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
To: jpsb
Punishment should fit the crime mom pays a $100 fine. No PR disaster here. Wal-mart pays a million dollar fine. No PR diaster there either. You asked for solutions I am giving you solutions that will work.In other words, you'll give them a lighter slap on the wrist than they get for speeding.
Which means that you'll get about the same level of legal compliance that the speed limit laws get.
468
posted on
01/09/2004 5:35:10 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
To: Poohbah
Uh-huh. And Congress hasn't provided for doing this,And precisely how has the Congress provided for Air Force fighters to intercept commercial airliners entering our air space?
469
posted on
01/09/2004 5:37:36 PM PST
by
kevao
To: kevao
Do my two things
1) punish and I mean really punish employers that employ illegals
2) deny illegals social services (not emergency medical).
And you can have (and should have) an open border with Mexico.
470
posted on
01/09/2004 5:37:59 PM PST
by
jpsb
To: kevao
And precisely how has the Congress provided for Air Force fighters to intercept commercial airliners entering our air space?The National Security Act of 1947. Note that there isn't a "round up illegal immigrants" clause.
471
posted on
01/09/2004 5:39:34 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
To: Poohbah
re mom
I make it more expensive for her to hire an illegal then to hire a teen ager. Works every time.
472
posted on
01/09/2004 5:40:12 PM PST
by
jpsb
To: jpsb
I make it more expensive for her to hire an illegal then to hire a teen ager. Works every time.She'll probably hire an illegal alien teenager--they don't usually have fifteen piercings on their face and tongue.
473
posted on
01/09/2004 5:41:31 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
To: jpsb
I'm in complete agreement with you on those points. Unfortunately, people like Poohbah won't allow you to check on whether employers are employing illegals. It's too intrusive. You need probable cause. And a search warrant.
I'll be sure to ask for a search warrant next time the health inspector comes around the restaurant.
474
posted on
01/09/2004 5:42:38 PM PST
by
kevao
To: kevao
The put the military on the border arguement ain't gonna fly. Poobhah is right about that, we don't have the man power and we really don't want an armed border with Mexico. Look at my two suggestion, they will work!
475
posted on
01/09/2004 5:44:13 PM PST
by
jpsb
To: kevao
I'm in complete agreement with you on those points. Unfortunately, people like Poohbah won't allow you to check on whether employers are employing illegals. It's too intrusive. You need probable cause. And a search warrant.Yup. What a concept, government obeying the restrictions placed on it.
I'll be sure to ask for a search warrant next time the health inspector comes around the restaurant.
Those who would trade a little libery for security deserve--and shall receive--neither.
476
posted on
01/09/2004 5:44:49 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
To: Poohbah
The National Security Act of 1947. Note that there isn't a "round up illegal immigrants" clause.Nice try, but there's no "intercept commercial airliners" clause, either.
477
posted on
01/09/2004 5:44:56 PM PST
by
kevao
To: kevao
Nice try, but there's no "intercept commercial airliners" clause, either.Actually, there is. Check out the Air Force's missions.
478
posted on
01/09/2004 5:45:28 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
To: kevao
I'll be sure to ask for a search warrant next time the health inspector comes around the restauranthahaha, you own a restaurant?
Cool, I own a bar, and I get inspected all the time. What's one more (NIS) inspection?
479
posted on
01/09/2004 5:47:05 PM PST
by
jpsb
To: jpsb
The put the military on the border arguement ain't gonna fly. Poobhah is right about that, we don't have the man power and we really don't want an armed border with Mexico.We don't need one million men on the border. We have technology to compensate. The aggessive use of just 200 drone planes would provide sufficient 24 hour/day recon of the entire Mexican border.
Check the American Border Patrol web site and see what they are able to accomplish in conjunction with the Border Patrol using just a few of these unmanned planes.
480
posted on
01/09/2004 5:51:34 PM PST
by
kevao
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