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Posted on 01/08/2004 3:26:01 PM PST by Impeach98
Good. You did your homework on a timely basis.
I warned everyone on the forum weeks ago to do their e-homework before Marin's political history is "sanitized" based on my personal experience with the mysteriously disappearing historic quotes and activities of Bustamante and Cedillo when they became prominent and controversial.
Ahem. The Bay Area is in Northern California, and it is MOST of the population thereof--the rest of Northern California is very thinly populated, aside from the liberal mecca of Sacramento.
Boxer's base is in Northern California, and it is formidable.
Wow, I guess the reason you so often get California politics wrong begins with your ignorance of geography. You can get a map of California for about $1.95 at your local drugstore. Maybe you should pin it on the wall and study the state.
No, the Bay Area is the Bay Area, it is not in any way part of what is known as Northern California. Yes, San Francisco is north of Los Angeles, but this is the same mentality that would place Ventura and Bakersfield in Northern California.
The Bay Area is its own region, geographically, politically and demographically.
As for Sacramento, again your ignorance is breathtaking. The City of Sacramento is liberal, as municipalities almost always are. However the boundaries and population of the actual city are small. It is not big enough to change the conservative makeup of Northern California. I noted that Boxer would have a hard time breaking 30% in Northern California, most of that would come from the urban Sacramento region.
Sacramento County is a Republican and conservative county. It has been for some time. When you include the high-growth greater suburban Sacramento areas (the commuters) such as Roseville in Placer County, and the Eldorado Hills region, the Sacramento area gets even MORE conservative. It is far from being "thinly populated."
Sometime you ought to see California a little beyond Valencia (You can drive 9 hours in a straight line past it) and learn more about our large and politically complex state.
Actually, they're in Central California.
The Bay Area is its own region, geographically, politically and demographically.
Fine. Northern California isn't big enough to counter it.
It is far from being "thinly populated."
Compared to the Bay Area, which you insist on not including in Northern California just to split semantic hairs, it's thinly populated.
You really need to go get that map. I'm not making this stuff up. Fresno is in central California. Bakersfield, Hanford, etc. are in Central California. It is a growing and VERY conservative part of the state. The Bay Area is NOT in Central California.
If you are going to create your own regions of California, maybe you could rename it WESTERN California or LEFT-California, perhaps California-GAUCHE (I'll take credit for that one if you use it). At any rate, please post your new map on your profile page so the rest of us can understand what you are talking about.
At no time did I allege that Northern California was greater-than, equal-to, or an answer-to the socialism in the Bay Area. I simply stated that it was very conservative and that Barbara Boxer would be lucky to get 30% up here.
I live a long and tedious 20 minutes drive from Huntington Park. The place makes me want to cry.
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Good. He would have saved Kalifornistan millions of dollars that were WASTED electing an idealogical twin of Doofus who had an "R" next to his name. The "results" of the "recall" are clear, from the defeat of Prop. 54 to higher taxes for state parks.
Of course, it shouldn't even be possible for Jones to hold statewide office in the first place (even though he did it twice), according to the Doofus clone supporters. After all Jones has one of those "extremist" openly pro-life platforms, instead of running as an abortion-luvin' "fiscal conservative"
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