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I'd like to see some proof that the 'immigrants' who come here are doing jobs that others won't.

I don't want to pick lettuce myself but it would be fun to develop robots to pick lettuce. Indirectly I could do the work of thousands of human lettuce pickers, and be paid well, pay lots of taxes, and use no socialist services. But with huge pools of cheap human lettuce pickers, robots are not as cost effective, yet anyway. It's coming though. The technology development has just been delayed by massive illegal immigration.

But with huge pools of cheap human lettuce pickers, robots are not as cost effective, yet anyway.

Thanks for bringing this up, I was going to on another thread where someone said "You don't like illegals? Prepare to pay $6 for a head of lettuce."

What that poster totally misses out on is that no farm is going to swap out a $2/hr illegal for a $10/hr citizen and expect to stay in business beyond a season. They'll swap in the US worker to replace 5 illegals and give him a robot to pick the lettuce.

The only reason its not being done now is that there's an infinite supply of cheap labor. Change that situation and now you have a) a better higher paying job for a citizen, and b) more capex spending for a robot.

Also when labor's cheap theres no investment. Who cares if your $2/hr worker wacks his finger off? He's easily replacable, and besides he's not going to complain as he'll get shipped back. Why give him a spiffy new hammer that costs $100 when he can make due with a crappy old one.

The technology development has just been delayed by massive illegal immigration.

Agreed, with our arable land, and technological base, we could grow enormous amounts of cheap food. It's already been done in the dairy industry.

Back to the point of this thread, I'm now convinced that HP is pure evil. I will NEVER buy any of their crap again. I've seen too many printers go to hell after only a year, they used to make the best ones in the business. Now, they're just Yugos with expensive ink cartridges. Their computers are total junk. I've replaced a goodly number of power supplies on them, they aren't worth crap. And when ordinary Americans realize that tech support is being farmed out to East Indians that they can't even understand, they hopefully will drop HP off their shopping lists.