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To: Owl_Eagle
Two, "greaseball" is a racial slur against people of Italian decent. It's the equivelent of "Polack" or "Bucket head" and reveals bigotry.

Reveals bigotry, huh? Well, since my own ethnicity is 100% Italian, you would be hard-pressed to make the case that I'm bigoted towards Italians. No, it's the gold chain/leather jacket/bad attitude ethnic stereotype which I saw demonstrated by way too many of my paisans, during the two years I lived in Philadelphia that I speak disparingly of.

most of the Eagles Season Ticket holders are from South Jersey, Delaware County, Bucks County, or Montgomery County, not South Philadelphia

Granted, the Eagles draw from a larger area than just South Philly, just as it is ridiculous to claim, as the author does, that 70% of the crowd at Lambeau comes from Green Bay - But the South Philly persona was what I saw at the games I attended there.

54 posted on 01/08/2004 9:30:04 AM PST by LouD
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To: LouD
I personally have never been to Philly but my kids went to a Phillies game this summer with their aunt and they mentioned how rude the home fans were. This coming from a 9 & 11 year old.

55 posted on 01/08/2004 9:38:21 AM PST by wisconsinconservative ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: LouD
No, it's the gold chain/leather jacket/bad attitude ethnic stereotype which I saw demonstrated by way too many of my paisans, during the two years I lived in Philadelphia that I speak disparingly of.
 
I'm curious, where in South Philadelphia did you live?  I've lived here most of my life and I'd have to say that it's a mythological stereotype.  Maybe you lived in a neighborhood I'm not familiar with, but I doubt it.
 
Ultimately, even football is just a damned game;
 
True.
 
Are you saying you condone assaults against people for the offense of supporting a rival team?
 
No, I never said anything like that.  It is a predictable consequence, though, that in a crowd of 65,000, there's going to be someone who takes exception to rival colors and will make a comment.
 
Interestingly, as far as assaults go, a survey of the records of "Eagles Court" (which has now been shut down as it saw no cases in the first nine weeks of the year) showed that 92% of the people to appear before Judge McCafferty were from outside of the Delaware Valley.  Worst amongst the offenders were during Giants and Steelers games.  I don't think that is at all indicative of Giants or Steelers fans, but by your logic a select few represent the majority.
 
The worst violence I have ever personally seen actually occurred at Fed Ex field after a Dallas Redskins MNF game in the fall of 2000, where I saw a Cowboys fan kicked nearly to unconsciousness by a drunken Redskin fan.  Still, I don't let that one incident (or the time FedEx field security had to use tear gas to break up a fight between Dallas and Washington fans) convince me that all Redskins fans are thugs.  Truth is, I've only been to half a dozen Redskins games and just don't know enough to make a judgment.
 
What you're doing, in painting the entire group of Eagles fans as Neanderthal thugs, would be the same thing as me trying to paint all Packers fans as dog murdering, corpse mutilating, psycho paths or people who can't control themselves from running onto a baseball field and throwing a haymaker at Bill Spires, something I wouldn't do because I know how unlikely that would be.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

75 posted on 01/08/2004 10:11:45 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (Fly Eagles Fly, On the Road to Victory! Fly Eagles Fly, Score a Touchdown One Two Three!)
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