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To: ArneFufkin
It's a Homeland Security move, a humane and ballsy move,

How on earth is a Homeland Security move? Tens of millions of illegals to be given "blue cards" which allows them to come and go as they please? Nothing stops them from selling or forging this card --- just like nothing stopped them from selling or forging Social Security cards, birth certificates and the famous green card. And where are all the immigration agents going to start when they millions of applications begin pouring in? And no one believes illegals are going to go back to Mexico and wait in line for the government to process these --- this does nothing about the organized crime rings producing fraudulent documents, it does nothing to stop illegals from crossing the border --- it will encourage more to do so.

275 posted on 01/08/2004 12:37:12 AM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Don't worry FITZ, as is the case with government, all of the rest of us will be forced to get ID cards.

Just like the I-9 form that was meant to deal with illegal aliens after 1986 (no one has ever been convicted of falsifying an I-9 form) but forced natural born citizens and others to PROVE we were citizens to get hired.

You are correct. They'll find a way to forge or sell these documents. Government bureaucracy, especially on the federal level, can't run a lemonade stand.

Eventually, this will HURT our security. Remember, of the 19 Saudi terrorists that committed the 9/11 horrors, most of them were here on INS Visas or work permits.
278 posted on 01/08/2004 12:44:50 AM PST by Fledermaus (President Bush needs to go ahead and give illegal aliens the vote because he's lost mine!)
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To: FITZ
Fitz, you think they're giving these cards out like street hawkers handing out coupons for a local pizza place? "Take 5, tell your friends."

The card is NOTHING. It's the vetted, identified and legitimized interloper in our midst that is important. Keeeripes. You guys are failure groupies.

Just the fact that this thread is dedicated to contacting the WHITE HOUSE shows how silly and reactionary the blood enemies of immigration reform are.

Bush just laid out his initiative today. What good would sending him e-mails of outrage do? Is he going to view the torrent of outrage like an NFL Ref peering into one of those sideline monitors after a challenge, call another press conference and say ... "Upon further review ..."

He's handing off the proposal to Congress. Contacting them would be productive and smart.

Productive and smart just will never be part of the equation on this issue on this forum. It's an FR circus. An ugly circus. Like, say, Sofia, Bulgaria in 1954. Animal cruelty will be in play.

280 posted on 01/08/2004 12:51:32 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: FITZ
Honestly, because I know you're an honest man ... did you vote for Bush in 2000?
282 posted on 01/08/2004 12:54:53 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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