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To: Zipporah
Are you saying that illegal immigration will spare social security?

That's precisely what he's saying, with the proviso that first you have to wave the magic wand and declare the illegals to be legal.

What he doesn't grasp is that adding one more ply to the ponzi scheme won't save it. It will only forestall the inevitable, and make the ultimate collapse that much worse.

The cure to socialist schemes (a la "the great society" and all its descendants) is not to open the floodgates to non-americans. The cure to socialist schemes is to end the socialist schemes.

Honestly, if I knew I was voting for someone whose core beliefs included the idea that socialism was good, viable, and necessary for my country, I never would have voted for Rove in the first place.

I certainly won't be repeating that mistake come November. I'm gonna sit this one out. Me, and upwards of 80% of the constituency.

I think we're finally gonna have the answer to the "well where are they gonna go if not with us?" question posed any time the countryclubbers at the "Grand" Old Party are queried on their betrayals of their base.

Their base isn't gonna go anywhere. Their base is gonna stay home on election day.

Their base is finally fed up with the game.

Yes, Virginia, "The Straw That Broke The Camel's Back" is based on a true principle.

202 posted on 01/07/2004 10:52:31 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
Provide evidence of this "base" that you keep touting. Is it the same "base" that voted for Perot in 92? Is it the same "base" that sat at home in 96?. Is it the same 2 million vote "base" that voted either 3rd party or sat at home in 2000? If that is the "base" then that "base" was written off 3 years ago. There is a new "base" in town and it ain't the ones you are talking about. A "base" whose only function is to lose elections is not a "base" it is a liability.
207 posted on 01/07/2004 11:00:01 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Don Joe
I certainly won't be repeating that mistake come November. I'm gonna sit this one out. Me, and upwards of 80% of the constituency.

I urge you not to sit out the election but to cast a vote for a third party. Part of Rove's power over Bush is the perception that uncast votes are claimable from the "middle" - thus propelling the Republican Party steadily to the left. If the country is ever to swing back to the right, it is critical that the pubs see documented VOTES and MONEY to the right. The sad truth is that it is power - not principle - that drives the Republican Party.

330 posted on 01/08/2004 5:29:50 AM PST by LTCJ (Gridlock '05 - the Lesser of Three Evils.)
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