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If borderline voters really think that the country will be better off by getting ANY of the democratic candidates in office, we have far more problems than illegals.

*The workers are going to find a way to be here anyway.*

Yes, they WILL FIND A WAY to get here. It's not some excuse. Just reality.

After reading so many of these angry posts, all threatening to abandon Bush over this, I just feel sick. It's like a great big temper tantrum, just like my kids used to throw.

I can't believe grown-ups would turn on the very best candidate we have, just because he can't possibly satisfy everyone, all the time.

George W. Bush is by far the best candidate in my opinion, and in the opinion of most reasonable people. He will not lose my vote.

If borderline voters really think that the country will be better off by getting ANY of the democratic candidates in office, we have far more problems than illegals.

You're right, I'm afraid. I've talked to a couple of Freepers who think we'd be better off with a DemocRAT. One guy said he would be willing for things to get worse under a DemocRAT so that his third party would get a leg up. We argued in several LONG posts each and I never could convince him of his folly. I guess he finally gave up on me too, because he didn't answer my last thesis.

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After reading so many of these angry posts, all threatening to abandon Bush over this, I just feel sick.

Me too. A lot of them are looking for a reason...any reason will do. While I'm not in favor of this particular bill and there are others he's signed that I'm not keen on, I still don't see anyone on the RAT side that's anywhere close. And the Third Parters can forget it this time around.

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He will not lose my vote.

Mine either. The last thing I want to see is a repeat of 1992 when Clintoon sneaked in on Perot's back. (Now watch someone dispute the "Perot's back" portion of that.)

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Do you have a lot a border problems there in Ohio?

I have no idea, but as you stated later in your 2nd post to me, the coastline of Lake Erie seems wide open for it. Seems it would be easy for a boatload of illegals to land, I don't know.

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For my entire life, I have never seen any evidence that these workers are going to destroy us or our economy (or anything else for that matter).

You've got a point. If anything they work cheap and keep our produce prices low. However....I have to say, we have immigration laws. And those laws are being violated. Whether you agree with the laws or not, they are being broken. I think than an amnesty is not the answer. I think it would be better to modify the existing laws to make it a little easier to enter legally. There is too much red tape and some of it could be eliminated so that the people who have tried to follow the law are not, in essence punished. By that I mean, for all these years they've been trying to do it through the proper way and these skates all of a sudden get "pardoned". How do you think they'll feel?

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I would much prefer these men to some of the homegrown jerks we have here who don't want to work and happily abandon their families.

I have to agree that we've raised some "homegrown" jerks, but I can't believe that all Mexicans are wholesome and true. Just like I can't say that all Americans are good or bad, Neither can I lump all Mexicans as good or bad either. Both contain a mixture.

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...It will help on the Homeland Security front.

I guess I don't understand how this can have ANY effect on Homeland Security. The criminal element of this bunch are not going to register no matter what. It's like gun laws. The true criminals aren't going to follow ANY law much less a gun law. As the old saying goes: WHEN THEY OUTLAW MARRIAGE, ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE INLAWS. (or something like that). In my opinion, this will have NO effect, good or bad, on Homeland Security. Please explain in more detail...I CAN be convinced...smile.

Happy New Year!!