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Conservatives simmer as spending mushrooms under Bush
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Posted on 01/05/2004 1:19:09 PM PST by G. Chapman

Conservatives simmer as spending mushrooms under Bush WASHINGTON (AP) — Conservatives wait warily as President Bush makes final decisions about his election-year budget, three years into an administration on whose watch spending has mushroomed by 23.7%, the fastest pace in a decade.

While Bush has emphasized repeatedly the need to rein in spending, overall federal expenditures have grown to an estimated $2.31 trillion for the budget year that started Oct. 1. That is up from $1.86 trillion in President Clinton's final year, a rate of growth not seen for any three-year period since 1989 to 1991.

Much of the increase stems from the fight against terrorism and wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Also expanding relentlessly have been huge programs such as Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, which grow automatically with inflation, higher medical costs and more beneficiaries.

What has vexed conservatives most is the 31.5% growth since Bush took office in discretionary spending. That is the one-third of the budget lawmakers approve annually for defense, domestic security, school aid and everything else except Social Security and other benefits.

Such spending grew by an annual average of 3.4% during Clinton's eight years.

Further infuriating conservatives, Bush and the Republican-run Congress have enacted a $400 billion, 10-year enlargement of Medicare; $87 billion in expanded benefits for farmers; and $40 billion for increased veterans' payments and the Air Force's leasing and buying of refueling tankers.

"Re-election has become the focus of Republicans in the White House and Congress. And those in power have determined the road to staying in power is paved with government spending," said Brian Riedl, who monitors the budget for the conservative Heritage Foundation.

Mounting spending has combined with the recession and two major tax cuts to turn a four-year string of annual surpluses into deficits that last year hit $374 billion, the worst ever in dollar terms. Administration officials and private forecasters say red ink could hit $500 billion this year, with more to follow.

Things look bleak in the long run, too. Director Douglas Holtz-Eakin of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has said the Medicare bill could cost from $1.7 trillion to $2 trillion during its second 10 years, as the huge baby boom generation retires and foists added costs on taxpayers.

"The U.S. budget is out of control," the investment bank Goldman, Sachs & Co. wrote its clients, projecting large deficits for the next decade. "Any thoughts of relief thereafter are a pipe dream until political priorities adjust."

In the new budget Bush is to send Congress on Feb. 2, Bush is expected to propose limiting the growth of discretionary programs to 4%, perhaps excluding defense and domestic security. Last February, Bush proposed holding discretionary spending increases to 4% this year and next, although aides now say he meant to exclude the military and anti-terror activities.

Discretionary expenditures will hit an estimated $873 billion this year, assuming the Senate completes a House-passed measure in January combining the year's seven remaining spending bills. That is $27 billion, or 3.2%, more than last year.

"President Bush has been resolute in pursuing his priorities of winning the war on terrorism, protecting the homeland and strengthening our economy. In pursuing those, he's also exercised fiscal restraint," said Joel Kaplan, deputy director of the White House budget office.

Critics say with nine months left in the government's budget year, there's plenty of time for more spending increases, such as for war costs. And they note this year's discretionary spending increase, though low, adds to boosts of 11% and then 15% in Bush's first two years as president.

"It's an administration that in principle is committed to controlling spending but is unwilling to make hard choices," said Maya MacGuineas, executive director of the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a bipartisan anti-deficit group.

The administration says most discretionary spending increases have been for defense and programs it considers anti-terror — the Homeland Security Department and other domestic security efforts.

Of the $209 billion three-year discretionary increase under Bush, which includes $20 billion Bush added for homeland security for 2001 right after the Sept. 11 attacks, the administration says $159 billion has been for defense and domestic security.

That means 76% of the increases have been for those programs.

During that same period, spending for all remaining discretionary programs has grown from $331 billion to $381 billion. That's 15%, or 5% a year.

"There clearly is a need for the Republican majority to sharpen its pencils and return to its foundation of discipline" in spending, said conservative Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind.

"There is room for more restraint, especially as the economy recovers, but this is hardly the record of a domestic-program spending spree," White House budget chief Joshua Bolten wrote last month in The Wall Street Journal.


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To: Sir Gawain
"Bush vs Hillary? That's the first I've heard of this. I think you scooped all the networks with that info."

Yes...that is how they look at it. Just look at the poll question on FR. That is how it is written. Don't even have a choice to say "not gonna vote for anyone who does not deserve the vote". I for one don't get suckered into questions like that.
41 posted on 01/05/2004 2:06:49 PM PST by Revel
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To: G. Chapman
Having a GOP led congress, at odds with a Dem spending plan would produce a budget battle of sorts that would at least keep massive spending in check. Even Clinton vetoed spending bills. Look at the numbers and compare Bush to Clinton, the results should be obvious.

So is Howard Dean your candidate? Any Democrat is better than a Republican, just so your green-eye-shade numbers will get closer together?

Your analysis of the Medicare bill is at total variance with Newt Gingrich's analysis, which says it will SAVE money, in the long run, by beginning some kind of privatization of Medicare. Doing nothing is even more costly.

Bush spends too much money, for sure, but I'm not going to pitch him over the side. The alternative is simply too horrible, in the face of the war on terror, to contemplate.

42 posted on 01/05/2004 2:07:49 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Lance Romance
Geez, you're the whiniest girl on this thread, and you accuse others of whining!?!

Got a little sand in your panties, I guess.

43 posted on 01/05/2004 2:08:12 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: sinkspur
I don't give a damn about the numbers.

At least not until a (D) starts spending your money.

Does Bush spend too much? Yeah. Should he spend less? Yeah.

Whoa, calm down! Wouldn't want you to get overly critical in the heat of the moment and say something that will get you kicked out of the GOP country club.

What's your alternative? A "blame-America-first" Libertarian like Ron Paul? A nobody like Howard Phillips? A certifiable nutbag like Howard Dean or Wesley Clark?

Hey, thanks to Bush and CFR, all I have is this one vote. At least they still have to earn mine. You write the GOP a blank check and let them do what they want with no repercussions. Voters like you are the problem.

44 posted on 01/05/2004 2:09:09 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: G. Chapman
"I'd rather Howard Dean (god [sic] forbid) take the White House..."

We know.

45 posted on 01/05/2004 2:09:45 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: KantianBurke
If you want to cast blame for 92, give it to the elder Bush for being so weak on the domestic front that he had a primary challenger who destroyed the myth of Bush being invincible in 92.

So learn your lesson, KB. Don't vote for 3rd party goofballs.

And Bush ain't his daddy.

46 posted on 01/05/2004 2:11:36 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Williams; billbears
"Go ahead, take the liberal media's bait. They HATE fiscal restraint. They are ONLY interested in telling conservatives to hate Bush, so a left wing BIG spender can get in."

ROTFLOL! That's not even close to reality, Williams. Bush's spending is up 20+ percent, not accounting for the increased spending for Homeland Security and the WOT. AND we got an estimated $400 billion package to cushion the medical and pharmaceutical industries to pay for on top of that. Some "fiscal restraint".

47 posted on 01/05/2004 2:12:58 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Sir Gawain
You write the GOP a blank check and let them do what they want with no repercussions. Voters like you are the problem.

So sue me. I won't vote for a Democrat, and would open a vein before I'd vote 3rd party.

48 posted on 01/05/2004 2:13:16 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
The 3rd party goofball option never would have materialized if Bush had had strong intraparty support. He didn't and first Buchanan and then Perot thought they could capitalize on it.
49 posted on 01/05/2004 2:14:17 PM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: sinkspur
I would open a vein before I'd vote 3rd party.

If you’re old enough, I'll get to buy your painkillers when you do.

Thanks George!

50 posted on 01/05/2004 2:15:55 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Lance Romance
Bush's spending as a percentage of the GDP is lower than both Reagan's and Bush I, and only slightly higher than Clinton's cut-the-military to shreds budget.

Yet, none of them had to deal with a major attack on the U.S. mainland, and the economic aftermath of 9/11.


51 posted on 01/05/2004 2:15:59 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: G. Chapman
Spot on correct.

Cheers.
52 posted on 01/05/2004 2:16:58 PM PST by lodwick (Wake up, America!)
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To: sinkspur
Suddenly, The Washington Post, AP, and CNN are all sources of information in FR.

I smell a rat.

Or maybe, a wet cat.
53 posted on 01/05/2004 2:17:08 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: G. Chapman
In constant 2003 dollars, Bush will spend $100 billion less than Reagan did.

Go campaign for Dean elsewhere.
54 posted on 01/05/2004 2:18:15 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: G. Chapman
Conservatives are simmering? Well, maybe the ones who haven't sold out are. But I'm outright INFURIATED.
55 posted on 01/05/2004 2:19:02 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"Yet, none of them had to deal with a major attack on the U.S. mainland, and the economic aftermath of 9/11."

None of them passed a welfare program for seniors and illegal aliens while talking about cutting benefits for Vets either.
56 posted on 01/05/2004 2:20:26 PM PST by Revel
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To: G. Chapman
Good post. I can understand a person who supports Bush as the lesser of two evils, or even because they believe that the war on terrorism trumps domestic issues until the war is won. However, I cannot understand how a conservative can turn a blind eye to this fiscal irresponsibility going on amongst their own. Not even an expression of disapproval, not for the man, but some things the man has done. They are like those loathsome parents who think that their own child can do no wrong.

I agree with your point that a legislative and executive branch that is split between parties may be the best hope we have of at least putting the big government goliath on tranquilizers. I wanted to add that conservatives may consider not voting for Bush in the election in order to whip the party to the right. Add another defeat to 1992 from lack of conservative enthusiasm and Republicans will hopefully get the message that in order to win elections, they have to act like conservatives.
57 posted on 01/05/2004 2:20:28 PM PST by Texas Federalist
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To: sinkspur
I have no candidate, neither does any conservative if they are truly conservative in their ideology. I can respect Newt and disagree with his analysis. The govt has no business providing health insurance in the first place, nor education or any host of programs that it currently provides for. Ever extra dollar spent on some cradle to grave program takes this country one step closer to socialism.

And lets look at the alternative, do you really think Dean would ever have a chance at winning the general election? Nope not going to happen, not this election, not ever. Anger doesn't win elections no matter how much the fools at Moveon think it does.

Still, what are we left with? A "compasionate conservative". I don't want that I want a fiscal conservative, someone who wont allow gluttonous spending on programs that the govt has no business being invloved with.
58 posted on 01/05/2004 2:21:05 PM PST by G. Chapman
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To: sinkspur
"He's a disrupter."

I'm not a disrupter and I agree completely. Bush is giving the farm away. Keep making excuses for him and his RINO's in Congress, but this is not what we bargained for. Being a voting citizen, I get to complain, as do others, for watching the Bush/Rove administration put me and my kids further in debt. And don't give me that "can't undo 30 years of liberalism in 3" crap. He has a veto pen...where the hell is he hiding it?

59 posted on 01/05/2004 2:25:06 PM PST by A Navy Vet (The Nanny State: from cradle to grave...for your protection...freedom be damned.)
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To: G. Chapman
I hope so as long as it keeps people like you constantly bitching.
60 posted on 01/05/2004 2:26:14 PM PST by cksharks (quote from)
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