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NASA Rover Sends Photos Back From Mars
AP ^ | Jan 04, 2004 | ANDREW BRIDGES

Posted on 01/04/2004 12:23:04 AM PST by optimistically_conservative

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To: Ichneumon

Darwin's work may have been misused...y'know

Reverse extrapolation but Mars really exists though

That is no theory..... chuckles...
21 posted on 01/04/2004 3:27:09 AM PST by birg
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To: Ichneumon
It's late/early. You search for it. Don't know if there is a Mars keyword in the thread or not but it was posted yesterday if that helps.

There may be more.

22 posted on 01/04/2004 3:27:20 AM PST by weegee
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To: Ichneumon

Who created Mars would be the next trick question...
Why would the source of life on Earth be different from the source of life on Mars?

The design space spans 'em both
23 posted on 01/04/2004 3:30:09 AM PST by birg
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To: birg
If there is life on Mars, and IMHO there is probably at least some forms of microbial stuff, it probably originated on Earth. All it would take is one good comet impact on Earth to seed the inner half of the solar system.


Bugs are everywhere. They probably have roaches on Mars.
24 posted on 01/04/2004 3:42:14 AM PST by djf
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To: djf
Here is a Pathfinder image of dawn on Mars.



Yes, there are clouds on Mars. And the sky is blue, not red.
25 posted on 01/04/2004 3:56:16 AM PST by djf
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To: djf
. . . it probably originated on Earth.

Or vice versa?

26 posted on 01/04/2004 4:00:22 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
Yup. I just meant it only needed start on one planet to infect the rest. Venus is gonna be tough, though!
27 posted on 01/04/2004 4:02:42 AM PST by djf
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To: monocle
"The cost is well justified if you consider how these pictures will confuse Sheila Lee Jackson."

That's a beaut!

Is there intelligent life on Sheila Lee Jackson?

If there is they should be charged as "squatters".

28 posted on 01/04/2004 4:14:17 AM PST by G.Mason ( Oh Hillary? ....... GWB is waiting.)
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To: djf
bump
29 posted on 01/04/2004 4:15:24 AM PST by tom paine 2
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To: Prime Choice
The lost probe to which you refer was the Mars Climate Observer. It was lost not because
of distance conversion miscalculations, but thrust miscalculations during
the course of orbital insertion.

So please make sure you have the facts straight when issuing such blanket condemnations. "


Thanks for the pointer. I guess Chemical and Engineering News should be
more precise withtheir English (note last line of paragraph below).
http://pubs.acs.org/cen/today/june42003.html

"After NASA adopted a policy of making missions smaller and cheaper,
the agency launched a pair of missions, the Mars Climate Orbiter and the
Mars Polar Lander, in 1999. The Lander was to have collected and analyzed rock
samples. But
both those missions were lost due to calculation errors
and miscommunications
.

"Besides, if NASA were truly comprised of the caliber of morons you think
they must have, we wouldn't be celebrating this latest and greatest success."


Congratulations. Honest.
I'm all for the projects. And at least a bit of accountability when
two projects end up as part of a very expensive space junkyard.
I'm not talking about sending the folks responsible for the goofs to Uday's torture chamber.
And I should admit that I understand that one of the project managers who didn't
push hard enough about investigating possible problems prior to the latest Shuttle tragedy
got a bit of a smack-down.

If NASA was a privately funded organization, I'd want them to succeed...
but their goofs would be their bidness.
30 posted on 01/04/2004 4:20:08 AM PST by VOA
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To: Prime Choice
You wouldn't have heard about said termination even if it occurred. It's none of the
public's business if a private individual is reprimanded or released from his position.


If this were true, a fair number of major newpapers would have been sued out
of existence.
Over the years, I can recall less than favorable articles about
named individuals "released" from employment with the pubically-funded organizations
in Oklahoma.
The latest one is the forensic scientist released from the police lab in Oklahoma City.
She got PLENTY of coverage in The Daily Oklahoman and even a segment of CBS's Sixty Minutes
for her warping of evidence in order to get convictions.

I can see people fired/released from private organizations not being named
if they are kicked overboard (and negotiate a quiet departure)...but a cloak
of invisibility when released from a publically-funded organization?

If so, I regret working in private industry and understand why so many
people want to work for the guvmint.
31 posted on 01/04/2004 4:33:30 AM PST by VOA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; KneelBeforeZod
The thread may be a duplicate, but do the others have the "actual" picture of proof of life on Mars? When people gripe that Starbucks is "everywhere", apparently they're right!
32 posted on 01/04/2004 4:40:30 AM PST by Moonmad27
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To: Moonmad27
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap970816.html
33 posted on 01/04/2004 4:47:51 AM PST by djf
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To: optimistically_conservative
From:http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/images/

34 posted on 01/04/2004 4:55:20 AM PST by ChadGore (George W. Bush has done more to earn my vote than any other American alive today.)
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To: optimistically_conservative
Where's Marvin?
35 posted on 01/04/2004 4:59:30 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: ChadGore

More pictures of rocks...and many millions of tax-dollars wasted. If NASA was axed in next year's budget, would anyone notice any difference in their lives? But who would employ these NASA people if not for the government, so it's really a jobs program for men with no marketable skills. Maybe we could outsource it to India and save some really big bucks.
36 posted on 01/04/2004 5:09:20 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: ChadGore
Hey, look! The Beagle!


37 posted on 01/04/2004 5:09:52 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: optimistically_conservative
Anybody know what time of day we will start getting new pics? Anybody have any details about rover deployment?
38 posted on 01/04/2004 5:49:18 AM PST by djf
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To: optimistically_conservative; Criminal Number 18F
This is great science! Congratulations JPL, you are still steely-eyed missle men (and women).
39 posted on 01/04/2004 6:37:42 AM PST by Archangelsk (CPL AMEL ASEL I)
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To: kittymyrib
More pictures of rocks...and many millions of tax-dollars wasted. If NASA was axed in next year's budget, would anyone notice any difference in their lives? But who would employ these NASA people if not for the government, so it's really a jobs program for men with no marketable skills. Maybe we could outsource it to India and save some really big bucks.

Here's a suggestion, burn your computer, car, PDA and every other device that has made your life what it is and then go live with the Amish and use some handtools. Luddite.

40 posted on 01/04/2004 6:41:00 AM PST by Archangelsk (CPL AMEL ASEL I)
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