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To: WOSG
It's not that you need to paddle that much, but failing to recognize its utility in some cases is a 'red flag' for where we have gone wrong wrt raising kids.

We'll just have to agree to disagree then. I don't believe that physically beating people is necessary to have a well ordered society, and in most cases it is counterproductive because inevitably that power is abused by petty tyrants, doing damage to the innocent and creating real trouble resistance.

Where do you get the silly idea that respect and physical discipline are mutually exclusive?

They're not, but corporal punishment represents a different kind of power dynamic between an administration and students (or parents and children). Corporal punishment sends the message that students should obey to avoid pain and discomfort. A better way to create discipline is to have an administration which students understand is furthering their interests, and respect out of their own enlightened self-interest.

What is unusual is our obsession with trying to "justify" authority rather than simply saying that authority eg of school officials can and should deserve respect as authority figures.

I couldn't disagree more. This is what seperates us from the facists, friend. The belief in authority should be respected "just because" is no good; subservance to power without reason or rationale is dangerous, and not an indeal I think we should indoctrinate our youth with.

56 posted on 01/04/2004 3:40:30 PM PST by logan
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To: logan; WOSG
56 - newbe logan - you better start 'running' back to your home in liberal lala land, as you are the problem - no respect or common sense, to where there are no rules, no authority, no morals, no duty and no responsibility.

Here we are trying to fix the mess you and your kind made. After you get out of school and have to support yourself, stop back and see us.
62 posted on 01/04/2004 11:40:02 PM PST by XBob
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