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To: SauronOfMordor
For a large percentage of poor people, it's not that they have bad attitudes because they're poor -- they're poor BECAUSE they have bad attitudes

Well, yes. I would assume that is true for white and black people. Where did the attitude come from? WHAT, actually, is it? Is it a belief that you cannot get ahead because someone is determined to keep you down? I can see that black people could easily feel that way if it is what they are told by their family and society (and some are being taught this). Is it the same for the white underclass? Who are they blaming their troubles on? The rich? Minorities?

Is it something else? Maybe a rejection of the value of hard work and being accountable?

Like I said, this was shocking to me. I grew up lower middle class and our parents were very ambitious for us. They didn't demand college, but by damn, you were going to have skills and be a responsible person. Through my adulthood, I have NEVER met a parent who hasn't had a desire to see their children achieve and encouraged it.

I don't know what the problem is exactly, much less an idea of how to combat it.

165 posted on 01/02/2004 5:22:10 PM PST by Dianna
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To: Dianna
WHAT, actually, is it? Is it a belief that you cannot get ahead because someone is determined to keep you down?

I think it's not being shown how to work. Like you, I grew up lower middle class. But my parents always told us that if we wanted better, we had to get more education and work for it.

The majority of the poor today are people who don't hear that message. Young people who don't have even high school diplomas, teens who have babies, and young people who get diverted by drugs are all likely to wind up poor.

We have to find a way to have fathers, or even just male mentors, convince these kids to look for a good life. Women can't raise good kids without men. And, yes, I know I will get hammered for saying that.

172 posted on 01/02/2004 6:11:15 PM PST by speekinout
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To: Dianna
Is it something else? Maybe a rejection of the value of hard work and being accountable?

Like I said, this was shocking to me. I grew up lower middle class and our parents were very ambitious for us. They didn't demand college, but by damn, you were going to have skills and be a responsible person. Through my adulthood, I have NEVER met a parent who hasn't had a desire to see their children achieve and encouraged it.

I have worked for a few years in health care and people lose accountability quickly and replace it with entitlement. The entitlement is provided by the legal and legislative systems. When one works around the poor-entitled enough one sees plenty of parents who do not care for their children in any way that resembles middle class nurturing. But also remember that the poor are a middle class entitlement.
195 posted on 01/04/2004 2:58:06 AM PST by mlmr (Watch out or the chickens willl get you.....)
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