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To: the invisib1e hand
I only remember this. The Iraq war 2003 has been the ONLY security issue the US and Germany disagreed on since WW2. THE ONLY ONE! Not a big thing to call someone an enemy, I´d say. Even allies must have the right to disagree respectfully - and that´s what happened. Even while the US forces started combat actions, German Patriot systems were part of Israeli and Turkish defence, and a German NBC-defense bataillon was located in Kuwait.

Call us not an US ally and hear my laughter!
14 posted on 01/01/2004 2:28:35 PM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus
the ONLY security issue the US and Germany disagreed on since WW2

so, basically, we've agreed on everything except the two largest threats to the United States and the world at large in the 20th century? That is not agreement at all. That's a damning statistic.

I'm not saying anything about you -- for it seems that you are German or identify strongly with Germany. It is possible and sometimes necessary to make a distinction between the representatives of a nation and the citizens of a nation.

20 posted on 01/01/2004 2:34:56 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Michael81Dus
The Iraq war 2003 has been the ONLY security issue the US and Germany disagreed on since WW2

Most of the Germans I've met have been reflexively Marxist and authoritarian. The majority of Germans I've known believe it is the role of the State to dominate, regulate and control nearly every aspect of citizen's life. There are, of course, exceptions. But it was difficult to ignore the widespread sympathy of Germans for the Soviet Union and their continued devotion to thinly veiled Marxism. For example, the Kyoto Protocol, was based on nakedly fraudulent science and was nothing short of an attempt to sabotage America's economy. Given the widespread German hatred of Israel, sympathy for the Palestianians terrorists, and willingness to supply and finance those who wish to murder and terrorize Americans, I'd say "ally" is a bit of a stretch.

23 posted on 01/01/2004 2:42:54 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (I always shoot for the moon......sometimes I hit London.- Von Braun)
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