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To: G Larry
"More than ever we need a new international order which draws on the experience and results of the United Nations," the 83-year-old pontiff said at a mass in St Peter's Basilica.

So they made this line up?

49 posted on 01/01/2004 7:18:51 AM PST by Lazamataz (G-d gave us free will. The government took it away.)
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To: Lazamataz
My post stated that the Pope did not make the statement regarding the U.S. invading without UN authorization.

Regarding the quote you cite here, the Pope already has what he's asked for.
We did react based on our experience with the results of the UN.
57 posted on 01/01/2004 7:23:38 AM PST by G Larry ($10K gifts to John Thune before he announces!)
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To: Lazamataz; ninenot
We have to learn from the myriad blunders of the UN. Nothing wrong with that. Does the UN ever fail to blunder? Should we just repeat the blunders? It is what we do when we have learned from the blunders that counts. We, as in the USA.

A pope opposes war and its attendant death and destruction. This is no surprise. Most religious leaders are not cheerleaders for war. The Vatican is also a nation-state with national policies of its own. The pope is both a religious leader and a secular leader. JP II will worry abouit Vatican policy. We Americans will concern ourselves with American policies.

Finally, it was apparent early on that the policy chosen by the conclave that elected the Polish prelate, Karol Cardinal Wojtlywa as pope, enacted a policy for his papacy of moral warfare against the Soviet Union. To become pope, the elected nominee MUST formally accept the policy chosen by the conclave BEFOE it elected him. Cooperation via Solidarnosz with destabilizing the Polish puppet regime of Wojciech Jaruzelski, and the resulting domino effect of destabilizing the rest of the captive nations of Easter Europe and, via cooperation with Ronaldus Maximus and Maggie Thatcher, the Soviet Union itself, JP II faithfully carried out and discharged his obligations to the conclave policy.

JP II is now old and God will relieve him of the burdens of authority when God sees fit. Meanwhile foreign policy is not dogma.

76 posted on 01/01/2004 7:46:39 AM PST by BlackElk (The auto-da-fe is God's chosen way to purge sin from the land.!)
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