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To: cebadams
The Pope was against us going to war with Iraq.

The U.N. failed to stop us.

The Pope wants a new and improved U.N. to stop us in the future.
370 posted on 01/01/2004 3:55:02 PM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
The Pope wants a new and improved U.N. to stop us in the future.

The posted article does not say that. And doing a quick google search I find no statements or other articles that support your point.

And who is the "us" that you refer to? I hope you are referring to the 30 some counties that comprise the Iraq coalition.

371 posted on 01/01/2004 4:08:22 PM PST by cebadams (much better than ezra)
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To: Bluntpoint; BlackElk
The Pope wants a new and improved U.N. to stop us in the future

Allow me to be gentle.

Reading documents from Rome is not quite the same as reading speeches by Senator Blowhardfoghorn.

Rome is usually VERY precise in its use of the language. That means that what they said is what they meant, no more, no less.

When JPII says "...based on [the experience of] the UN.." it is NOT a compliment to the UN--it is a slap.

What that really means is that 'the UN is a good idea, sometimes actually efficacious, but not nearly often enough...'

Even if you read his speech as an endorsement of the UN, please recall that the UN's Sec.Council has the USA as a Permanent Member with veto power.

Maybe that's what JPII wants to preserve...?

404 posted on 01/01/2004 5:15:44 PM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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