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To: cebadams
"More than ever we need a new international order which draws on the experience and results of the United Nations," the 83-year-old pontiff said at a mass in St Peter's Basilica.

"An order which is capable of finding adequate solutions to today's problems, based on the dignity of human beings, on integrating all society, on solidarity between rich and poor countries, on the sharing of resources and the extraordinary results of scientific and technological progress," he added.


If you don't see that as a pro-UN-one-worldesque statement, then we're unlikely to agree on much of anything.

MM

367 posted on 01/01/2004 3:35:12 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: MississippiMan; Bluntpoint
I'll just repost what I posted way back on #273:

The U.N. is a complete and utter failure, a "new order" implies something other than an existing order. So we see here that JPII is in essence advocating for an international coalition (NOT the UN) to combat terrorism and bring pease to the middle east.

An order that can find solutions to today's problems; i.e., a coalition of forces to combat international terrorism. Maybe something just like this one:

The Proliferation Security Initiative reflects the need for a more dynamic, active approach to the global proliferation problem. It envisions partnerships of states working in concert, employing their national capabilities to develop a broad range of legal, diplomatic, economic, military and other tools to interdict threatening shipments of WMD and missile-related equipment and technologies.

A new order that produces results just like this one: U.S. find led to Gadhafi decision.

Hard not to agree with this message.

The U.S. cannot go it alone. Some coalition will exist. That coalition will not be the U.N.
369 posted on 01/01/2004 3:51:35 PM PST by cebadams (much better than ezra)
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To: MississippiMan
The Pope's words in 91 against socialism are diametrically opposed to recent statements.

I believe hard core international socialists in the Vaticans are controlling the message now. And I believe that the next Pope will be a big time socialist.
382 posted on 01/01/2004 4:39:17 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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