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Pope wants new international order to keep peace
Reuters | January 1, 2004 | Claire Soares

Posted on 01/01/2004 5:55:35 AM PST by HAL9000

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To: Lazamataz
I blame everyone for everything.

You would. :)

121 posted on 01/01/2004 8:33:31 AM PST by LibKill ("Two crossed, dead, Frenchmen emblazoned on a mound of dead Frenchmen.")
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To: G.Mason
My Korean neighbor is always picking up strays.
122 posted on 01/01/2004 8:33:38 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Leto
Please see my message # 81.

Muleteam1
123 posted on 01/01/2004 8:33:52 AM PST by Muleteam1
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To: sinkspur
There is no supportable motive for terrorism.

Motive or JUSTIFICATION?
124 posted on 01/01/2004 8:35:45 AM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: reed_inthe_wind
Once again, FReepers go into a mental cacoon when the Vatican says anything.

This is not "the Vatican." It's the Pope, who has STILL not expressed public gratitude to God for the liberation of the Iraqi people from a mass murderer.

125 posted on 01/01/2004 8:36:47 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Muleteam1
" ....... Mine relates to being an older American. It ain't fun and it hurts a lot....... "

Yes Sir! I can relate to that.

Hell, I need a days rest after a day in the boat fishing.

Life is good!


126 posted on 01/01/2004 8:37:21 AM PST by G.Mason ( Oh Hillary? ....... GWB is waiting.)
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To: sinkspur
the Pope, who has STILL not expressed public gratitude to God for the liberation of the Iraqi people from a mass murderer.

You're being ridiculous .... as if the man says to himself "drat!  Iraqis are free".
127 posted on 01/01/2004 8:38:25 AM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: sinkspur
Of course the Pope screamed to high heaven when Libya was appointed to head the U.N. Human Rights commission.

Right?
128 posted on 01/01/2004 8:38:59 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: GirlShortstop
Motive or JUSTIFICATION?

There is no acceptable motive or justification for terrorism.

129 posted on 01/01/2004 8:39:25 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: GirlShortstop
No. A recognition that even his own Chaldean Catholics no longer have to fear Saddam Hussein would be nice.
130 posted on 01/01/2004 8:40:51 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
There is no acceptable motive or justification for terrorism.

Well said.

131 posted on 01/01/2004 8:41:56 AM PST by LibKill ("Two crossed, dead, Frenchmen emblazoned on a mound of dead Frenchmen.")
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To: Tao Yin
I would have thought so ---- but we'll see how long America lasts as far as how it was meant to last by the Founding Fathers. I think we're already pretty far gone as far as the Constitution and government by the people. The Catholic Church has lasted a long time.
132 posted on 01/01/2004 8:42:40 AM PST by FITZ
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To: sinkspur
It has been scientifically proven that terrorisim is caused by an inner ear disorder.


133 posted on 01/01/2004 8:43:33 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: sully777
The Jesuits ceased being Catholic, much less the Pope's men (4th vow takers), about forty years ago. They ran the prep school I attended when they were still Catholic. Now they need to be suppressed by the Vatican as they were in the 18th century. The Inquisition needs to be revived, though. Such AmChurchian phonies posing as Catholic as Ted Kennedy, Tom Harkin, Tom Daschle, Patty Murray, Nancy Pelosi, Patrick Leahy, Christopher Dodd, Barbara Mikulski, Mary Landrieu, Dickie Durbin, Dennis Kucinich, Carol Mostly Fraud, John Kerry, Roger Cardinal McPhony, Bishop Joseph Adamec, Bishop Delaney, Bishop Grahmann, Rosa DeLauro, and so many others need a good inquiry and its logical aftermath.

Tomas de Torquemada, pray for us! Cardinal Ximinez, pray for us!

BTW, the Inquisition was not at all limited to Spain nor should it have been or be.

134 posted on 01/01/2004 8:44:09 AM PST by BlackElk (The auto-da-fe is God's chosen way to purge sin from the land.!)
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To: Bluntpoint
Of course the Pope screamed to high heaven when Libya was appointed to head the U.N. Human Rights commission.

How about an acknowledgement of Libya's giving up weapons of terrorism?

An Italian politician said, in an insightful article last year, that the Vatican beats up on the West because it knows it can and there will be no retribution.

There is rarely an acknowledgement of the damage done by Muslim extremism. To be fair, some of this stuff comes, not from the Pope himself, but from an anti-Western curial element, led by buffoons like Archbishop Martino.

135 posted on 01/01/2004 8:46:06 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: HAL9000
With all due respect, I still embrace the admonition to Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's..., and wistfully recall the wisdom of Urban II.

As for any international body, the jokes that have been the ones we have seen in the last century, The League of Nations and The United Nations, more people killed, butchered and burned to a crisp under both sad excuses for peacekeepers. What is the point if millions are allowed to die without a "declaration of war"?

Peacekeeping belongs to the strongest. Always has. Always will. When the weak get together, their main objective always becomes to take down the strong and somehow to replace it. Has never worked. Never will.

136 posted on 01/01/2004 8:46:36 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Bluntpoint
I've noticed.
137 posted on 01/01/2004 8:46:57 AM PST by BlackElk (The auto-da-fe is God's chosen way to purge sin from the land.!)
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To: sinkspur
There is no acceptable motive or justification for terrorism.

No kiddin'?!  Well I'll be.    </sarcasm off>

Two different words sink - motive versus justification.  You're spinning into some strange realm with the Christmas message, and not making much sense to me.  With that, I'll refrain from further discussion of it.  FReegards and Happy New Year.

138 posted on 01/01/2004 8:47:40 AM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: HAL9000
Can anyone say, "One World Government?"
139 posted on 01/01/2004 8:47:59 AM PST by pctech
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To: BlackElk
I haven't read the entire thread but I think the Pope just said the UN was history. but what alarmed me was the alliance of rich and poor countries and the "sharing" of resources. Now I don't mind sharing but when I hear this kind of talk, I feel like someone is coming to get my goodies just like they did in Rhodesia. Voluntary sharing is one thing but rarely does it remain voluntary when internationalist/socialists get involved. That said, the Pope is a good man and who can argue with the desire to end war.
140 posted on 01/01/2004 8:50:09 AM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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