Though I understand Jim's position and the position of those that don't want DU here (I don't either), I would have liked to have seen people here call him on his BS. Freepers are often quite witty and entertaining :-) as well as well-informed. FR regularly receives posts from people wanting to know how to respond to the leftist slant/disinformation and a debate like that here would have been helpful as well as instructive, imo. But having managed lists, I'm aware it can often be a tough call on when to pull the plug before you have chaos. Jim, I appreciate what you do, too. More than you will ever know :-)