Town Refuses to Ask Citizens If Library Porn Should Be Filtered Out - Please Help Us!

Plan2Succeed.org ^ | 22 Dec 2003 | Plan2Succeed.org

[brooklin]

I'm sorry, you can't legislate common sense. Our government has been trying to do that from day one. Adult supervision is what is needed here, not censorship by committee.

[leadpenny]

If we don't, then gays will start plugging each other in the library.

Ya know, in your world you probably wouldn't be able to type that sentence on a guvment computer.

[NMFXSTC]

PLeae...Lweis Carrl wrote the book...he was a known user of hallucigens and even attributed his work on that very book to the unfluence of ether...do a little research (that PC you're on can connect you to Carrol sites..see why filters are useless?)

[SkyRat]

You could be in the library when you are attacked by someone who had been viewing porn

huh? attacked by someone who had been viewing porn? Are you joking? I don't get it. Wuld you care to explain, please.

[leadpenny]

OK, so you have no idea...

Right you are. I have no idea what you're talking about.

[jonefab]

Wichita Eagel article Jun. 24 2003
Contributing: Sara Plummer of The Eagle; Associated Press

Ruling could compel Wichita libraries to install porn filters Eagle staff and news services

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Monday that the federal government can require public libraries to install computer filters or withhold federal funding if they don't comply.

The law is meant to block pornography from being seen in libraries, even though the filters would block other types of information as well.

The court's 6-3 ruling means public libraries that receive federal funding and don't have computer filters have a decision to make: comply or risk losing their money.

Jennifer Heinicke, special projects librarian for the Wichita Public Library, said the library is researching the cost of installing the filters.

The Wichita Public Library has applied for nearly $60,000 in federal funding for fiscal 2003, which starts July 1. About $22,000 of that could be threatened if the filtering software is not installed, Heinicke said.
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[NMFXSTC]

The writings of Lewis Carroll show that he had a great love of little girls in general and Alice Liddell in particular. His actions tell the same story, for it was not uncommon for him to send a sick child in hospital one of his books in an attempt to cheer them up. A lady who visited sick children in hospital, asked that he write to a dying child, who had enjoyed reading Alice, which he was happy to oblige.

It is a sad reflection of today's society that were he alive today he would probably be hounded out of town by mob rule as a paedophile, egged on by the gutter press.

[leadpenny]

That's great. We pay for our own censorship. The Telecommunications Act of 96 instituted the "Gore" tax now administered by the FCC. Remember how we had to wire the schools and libraries for the internet. The bill has come due.

[AppyPappy]

I hope you are being sarcastic. There is no comparison between Lewis Carroll and child porn.

[Always Right]

Right you are. I have no idea what you're talking about.

Oon't worry, I would not expect you to see the hypocripsy of your own posts.

[jonefab]

Contact one of your conservative state Senators or Representatives to introduce similar legislation.

By Chris Grenz
The Capital-Journal

Opponents of a measure designed to prevent children who use public library computers from seeing Internet pornography testified Tuesday that the measure would be expensive and ineffective.

The bill would require any library that receives state funding to install filtering software on all computers used by minors. The measure would allow citizens to seek court orders blocking public access to a library's computers until filters are installed. Proponents testified earlier that the software would block Web sites that contain obscene material.
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[leadpenny]

Ok, I'm thick. Gimme a hint.

[eno_]

Why not have it be opt-in. If your kid can't be trusted, put a big red dot on their library card so the librarians know to turn on filters for those kids. I don't use porn filters at home, and I trust my kids not to surf porn at the library. Scanning the logs and reprimanding kids that violate library policy should be enough.

Filters have a LOT of problems. MANY filters are very anti-gun and would filter out GOA, NRA, and FR.

[milan]

I am not asking the government to legislate common sense. I am asking some on this thread to exercise it. And I agree with your call for adult supervision. I cannot sit with my child 24/7 when they are on the computer however. I installed a filter. It works well. Some sites that they may want to visit they can't. Considering one skipped a grade and the other both get straight A's, I don't think the filter has hindered their life to such an extent that big brother has turned them into lemmings. That arguement is bunk.

I have offered solutions to the filter arguements. They are common sense approaches. Provide several computers that are not filtered. Children must have an adult to use those few computers in a library. There's your adult supervision. The other computers are filtered, for those children who have parents that don't care or cannot find the time to always be with their children.

The library should be a safe place to leave a child to be. The library visit should not be a porn store.

The wonderful comments from others about filters not working correctly is so amazingly idiotic it is hilarious. No, it is not foolproof, especially if you spend $45 at walmart to buy it. A good filter placed at the DNS server can easily and effectively filter without causing nazi censorship or blocking "little girl" searches which would yield no results on a cheap filter. The filter arguement is a mute point, because it is made by those with limited computer technology experience. A library can be effectively filtered. Simple common sense accomodations can be arranged for unfiltered access.

[milan]

Your lack of technical knowledge regarding filters is forgiven.

[eno_]

Porn is John Ashcroft buying 20,000 drapes with MY DAMN MONEY to cover some marble boobs.

That's more obscene than a whip handle up the ass.

[Always Right]

You profess to know what is going on in libraries and tell us there are no problems with kids viewing porn. But then you act ignorant and tell us you weren't doing a study. I was just pointing out how much crap you are full of.

[milan]

What else is going on here?

[milan]

Are you saying that porn has some meaningful positive impact on our society?

[Always Right]

Very well said.