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Blair acted like a 'white vigilante' by invading Iraq, says bishop
The Guardian ^ | 30 December 2003 | Sarah Hall

Posted on 12/29/2003 8:55:24 PM PST by Hal1950

Tony Blair came under attack from two of the Church of England's most senior figures yesterday for acting "like a white vigilante" and for lacking humility in forging ahead with the war on Iraq.

In the most outspoken outburst, the Bishop of Durham, Tom Wright, accused religious conservatives surrounding the US president, George Bush, of espousing "a very strange distortion of Christianity" - particularly since, through Iraq's reconstruction, many would gain financially.

"For Bush and Blair to go into Iraq together was like a bunch of white vigilantes going into Brixton to stop drug dealing. This is not to deny there's a problem to be sorted, just that they are not credible people to deal with it," he said.

In a separate rebuke, the Archbishop of York, David Hope, questioned the legitimacy of the war and said Mr Blair would have to answer to God - a "higher authority" - for his decision to forge ahead with the conflict.

He called on people to pray for Mr Blair and called on him to show more humility rather than exercising power in an authoritarian way. Referring to Iraq, he said: "One of the qualities of a good leader is that they have to be really attentive to the views of the people. It seemed at one stage that that was not happening."

The conflict, and the events leading up to it, had raised questions of leadership and trust.

Referring to Iraq, he said: "We still have not found any weapons of mass destruction anywhere. Are we likely to find any? Does that alter the view as to whether we really ought to have mounted the invasion or not?

"Undoubtedly, a very wicked leader has been removed, but there are wicked leaders in other parts of the world."

Dr Hope went on to call on Britons to "spend more time praying for Tony Blair", who should exercise a "calm, quiet authority".

The coalition leaders would have to give an account to a "a higher authority," he added, in an echo of the warning by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, at the Iraq war remembrance service, that Mr Blair would be "called to account."

Downing Street last night refused to be drawn on the church leaders' attacks, made in the Independent and the Times respectively. But the rebukes are likely to rankle with the prime minister, a devout Christian, who recently declared he was ready "to meet my maker" and answer for his decisions on Iraq.

While Alastair Campbell, the prime minister's former director of communications, forbade Mr Blair from speaking about his faith, and Mr Blair has sidestepped questions about whether he has prayed with Mr Bush at war summits, faith forms a strong part of the prime minister's psyche.

He confessed in an interview conducted during the Iraq war that he had wanted to end a televised statement before British troops went into Iraq with the phrase "God bless you", but was dissuaded by officials.

The former foreign secretary Robin Cook yesterday said it was time for Mr Blair to drop his claims about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. "It really is time that the prime minister accepted that himself," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme. "It is undignified to continue to insist he was right when everyone can see he was wrong."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: antiwararchbishop; episcopalidiocy; iraq; lunaticarchbishop; tonyblair
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To: woofie
Did you have to run spell check on the name of your own denomination?
41 posted on 12/29/2003 9:53:25 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: Hal1950
And, as the organized churches of men circle the drain...
42 posted on 12/29/2003 9:55:21 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: Hal1950
Bishop of Durham, Tom Wright, accused religious conservatives surrounding the US president, George Bush, of espousing "a very strange distortion of Christianity"

How much does anyone want to bet tat this "bishop" believes homosexuality is not a sin?

43 posted on 12/29/2003 9:56:29 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
Yep ...Im a good Episcopalian, I go 2 times a year...(I did recognize that it looked funny though)
44 posted on 12/29/2003 9:57:08 PM PST by woofie
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
I did spell "screw" right however
45 posted on 12/29/2003 9:58:25 PM PST by woofie
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To: Hal1950
What has happened to so much of Christianity?
46 posted on 12/29/2003 9:59:44 PM PST by wardaddy ("either the arabs are at your throat, or at your feet")
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To: Hal1950
Is this self-righteous shaman so drunk with power that he forgets whom he has sworn to serve? And why?

Ah well, God is his judge.
Someone should remind him of that simple, basic fact of human spirituality.It appears he has forgotten...
47 posted on 12/29/2003 10:00:10 PM PST by sarasmom (Message to the DOD : Very good , troops.Carry on. IN MY NAME)
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To: Eala
“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” (Edmund Burke)

And what does the "good" Bishop advocate?..

48 posted on 12/29/2003 10:06:40 PM PST by DB (©)
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49 posted on 12/29/2003 10:07:08 PM PST by Consort
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To: Hal1950
In a separate rebuke, the Archbishop of York, David Hope, questioned the legitimacy of the war and said Mr Blair would have to answer to God - a "higher authority" - for his decision to forge ahead with the conflict.

I'm sure the Archbishop wishes God was as disappointed as he that Blair helped to shut down the torture chambers, rape rooms, mass graves and terror in Iraq.

How do loons with inverted morality like this actually become Archbishops? Tell me!

The Archbishop of York, I fear will be watching from Hell as the Lord rewards Tony Blair for this magnificant and truly good achievement on earth ....one for which God can be thanked and praised.

50 posted on 12/29/2003 10:18:09 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Hal1950
Downing Street last night refused to be drawn on the church leaders' attacks,...

Blair does not have time to deal with the irrelevant.

51 posted on 12/29/2003 10:24:10 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: Hal1950
Dr Hope went on to call on Britons to "spend more time praying for Tony Blair", who should exercise a "calm, quiet authority".

As if Tony Blair needs the prayers of this self-righteous depraved religious hypocrite.

Dr. Hope is all upset that the murdering dictator has been overthrown and a people liberated from tyranny, and dares to say he will pray for Blair. I want to throw up.

52 posted on 12/29/2003 10:24:50 PM PST by Jorge
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To: BnBlFlag
What's the difference in a "white" vigilante and a "black" vigilante?

I was wondering the same thing. I suppose the bishop was trying to imply some sort of subtle racist motive behind Blair's decision to fight. When dealing with the diseased PC mind, it is inevitable that you will be accused of racism if you are white and disagree with whatever the current Leftist orthodoxy is, even if the issue has nothing to do with race. Nothing worries a guilt-stricken white liberal more than to be branded with the scarlet R. The far Left has been quite successful at using the threat of a racist label to silence any discourse from the more moderate members in their ranks. Of course, due to overuse, the accusation of racism is growing more and more meaningless to most clear thinking people.
53 posted on 12/29/2003 10:27:37 PM PST by Welsh Rabbit
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To: tsmith130
"Undoubtedly, a very wicked leader has been removed, but there are wicked leaders in other parts of the world." I never understood this argument. So their answer is to do nothing to any wicked leaders, ever?

I'm just as perplexed as you are. Using the same reasoning, this Bishop could just as easily condemn someone for feeding starving people in Ethiopia, because after all there are people still starving in other parts of the world, too.

His comment on Tony Blair's race makes no sense to me, either. God doesn't give a flying flip what color the man's skin is, He only cares what's in Mr. Blair's heart. Racism/race-baiting has NO place in the Christian church whatsoever!! Absolutely NONE!

54 posted on 12/29/2003 10:35:44 PM PST by schmelvin
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To: Southack
I keep wondering where they scrape up all these idiots for high position in Churches, schools and government. Truely baffling!

Nam Vet

55 posted on 12/29/2003 10:37:27 PM PST by Nam Vet (It's a small world. So you gotta use your elbows a lot.)
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To: DeFault User
Blair does not have tim to deal with the irrelevant...

Nor, it seems, with the irreverent...

the infowarrior

56 posted on 12/29/2003 10:38:54 PM PST by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: JennysCool
lol
57 posted on 12/29/2003 10:44:00 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Hal1950
Lunatics.
58 posted on 12/29/2003 10:44:54 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Hal1950
Considering how blase England is about religion these days, this bishop must be following his statements up with "Hello?...test..test...Is this mike on?"
59 posted on 12/29/2003 10:45:15 PM PST by ctonious
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To: lowbridge
...This is not to deny there's a problem to be sorted...

That's the first time I hear of over 300,000+ human beings butchered as a "problem". I would say that doing nothing while this happened is quite unchristian. The least this bishop could do is open a can of Shut The F*** Up.
60 posted on 12/29/2003 10:49:23 PM PST by winner3000
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