[buccaneer81]

From my experience, this officer is part of a distinct minority of LEOs. His attitude is condescending and patronizing at best. He is part of the problem.

[ZULU]

"I have yet to hear the pro-carry people explain why putting several thousand more guns out on the street is a good idea and how that would make us all safer. "

Disarming the law-abiding public to make people safer is not only unconstitutional, also it makes as much sense as belling the cat to keep it from eating mice.

[Darksheare]

"I have yet to hear the pro-carry people explain why putting several thousand more guns out on the street is a good idea and how that would make us all safer."
And even if explained to him IN DETAIL with proof showing that less guns in law abiding citizens hand means more crime he would not listen.

[CIBGUY]

I'm a retired police officer and a Life Member of the Fraternal Order of Police. Officer Barr's opinions are shared by a small minority of police officers, most of whom won't go outside their house while off duty without a gun, a bunch of hypocrites.

[FreedomCalls]

Editorials: More automobiles equal more grief, loss of life Friday, December 26, 2003

As the debate over the private ownership of automobiles continues, I am baffled that any law-enforcement officer or agency would come out in favor of the bill. I applaud Gov. Bob Taft; obviously, he is a man of conviction and common sense.

I have yet to hear the pro-private automobile people explain why putting several thousand more cars out on the street is a good idea and how that would make us all safer.

There have been about 105 fatal accidents in just Columbus this year, many of them involving automobiles. Without looking at the statistics, I’ll bet not one of the cars used was registered to the suspect, purchased legally or that the suspect completed any driver training.

Folks, I have a newsflash for you: Most of the automobiles used in bank robbery getaways and burglary incidents are stolen during joy rides or from carjackings. Very rarely are they legitimately owned.

I have been a police officer in Columbus for almost 24 years. Having spent most of that time on the street and in homicide, I have knocked on many doors to tell family members that someone they loved wouldn’t be coming home because someone with a automobile had ended their loved one’s life.

I watched the TV coverage of the "peaceful" pro-private automobile rally at the Statehouse by those who claim it is their right to own a car. One man was driving a candy-apple red Corvette convertible. He’s just what we need standing in traffic next to a family while they wait to cross a street to go to church. After years of seeing firsthand the grief, suffering and loss of life, quite frankly the thought makes me sick.

And these same people are fighting public access to records of the people issued driver's licenses. Well, it’s my right, should this bill ever pass, God forbid, to know who they are!

OFFICER PAT Hedupbut

Columbus Division of Police -- You Will Submit.

[Hat-Trick]

Dear Officer Barr:

[AmericanVictory]

How surprising that so many police are for a police state. No self interest there.

[longtermmemmory]

I think you forgot the barf alert.

It is well, actually overwhelmingly, documented that more guns equal LESS crime.

Next will be a political litmust test for officers. Only those who oppose individual rights will be hired.

[CHICAGOFARMER]

Just sent this LETTER TO THE EDITOR

Let see what happens.

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Day dreaming again



On 12.26.2003 Officer Pat Barr of the Columbus Police bashed the 2nd amendment and all known self defense statues known to man. Officer Barr has 24 years of experience. Not detective, not investigator, not sergeant, not Lieutenant or Captain, just Officer. Kind of tells the reader something.



Citizens register a privileged like a car, not a right guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. By the way the First Amendment the right to free speech is not licensed, however, can be sued if misused, but still not registered. Why do we need to register a constitutional amendment?



I just finished reviewing the statistics for your performance in Ohio. In the year 2000, 37,919 violent crimes were committed, 420 murders, 4,200 rapes, 15,553 robberies, and 17,597 assaults. Question Officer Barr where were you? Why did your not stop these crimes from happening? Do you know that dialing 911 and no help is real? If you fail your duty to protect the Ohio citizen the statue known as “sovereign immunity” protects you from being sued. Question who is watching out for my family when you are eating donuts?

[DmBarch]

From the Lansing (MI) State Journal, October 24, 2002. On page 13A, it has an interview with Jennifer Granholm (D) who then was the elected Attorney General of Michigan. Granholm was elected Governor of Michigan two weeks later.

"LSJ: Haven't you changed your position on some of the issues?

Granholm: CCW I have! I was opposed to the changes to liberalize the carrying of a concealed weapon. Because I stood with law enforcement and we thought there would be a lot of accidents, a lot of road rage, etc. Well, you know, we've been proven wrong. So, I'm willing to say when I've overstated something or when I've been proven wrong."

[MississippiMan]

From my experience, this officer is part of a distinct minority of LEOs. His attitude is condescending and patronizing at best. He is part of the problem.

Yup, good LEOs understand the difference between law-abiding citizens and thugs, and have no problem with the former protecting themselves from the latter.

MM

[drlevy88]

I have yet to hear the pro-carry people explain why putting several thousand more guns out on the street is a good idea and how that would make us all safer.

Has he been living in a hole along with Saddam Hussein?

[Quix]

Are such critters aware of the Australian statistics?

[aomagrat]

[Spok]

"There have been about 105 homicides in just Columbus this year, many of them involving firearms. Without looking at the statistics, I’ll bet not one of the firearms used was a weapon registered to the suspect, purchased legally or that the suspect completed any firearms training."

I'm confused. In this statement, he makes the case for concealed carry laws. Any cop knows that the creeps with guns that they need be concerned about ARE ALREADY OUT THERE! THEY'RE NOT WAITING FOR A CCW LAW TO START PACKING!! A little common sense, please.

[facedown]

I have yet to hear the pro-carry people explain why putting several thousand more guns out on the street is a good idea and how that would make us all safer.

Then you're not listening.

[tj005]

Ok... if banning guns will eliminate gun crime then the answer is simple.. just ban crime!! oh wait... we did that... it didn't work did it? oh drat!

I wonder if Officer Barr would be so convinced if HE was NOT a police officer and COULD NOT carry a sidearm for protection?

Just a thought......

[VadeRetro]

I have yet to hear the pro-carry people explain why putting several thousand more guns out on the street is a good idea and how that would make us all safer.

Can't prove he's lying, but I don't believe he's telling the truth about what he's heard. He probably needs to get his ears unplugged.

[kiriath_jearim]

"I have yet to hear the pro-carry people explain why putting several thousand more guns out on the street is a good idea and how that would make us all safer. "

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Who is putting guns "on the street"? It's about putting guns in law-abiding people's holsters next to their law-abiding bodies.

[EveningStar]

Officer Pat Barr on the job.

[Abe Froman]

I watched the TV coverage of the "peaceful" pro-carry rally at the Statehouse by those who claim it is their right to carry a firearm. One man was wearing a pearl-handled .44 Magnum in a Western-style holster. He’s just what we need standing in line next to a family while they wait to get into a Blue Jackets game. After years of seeing firsthand the grief, suffering and loss of life, quite frankly the thought makes me sick.

Then grab your barfbag dude. Your sickness is not our problem. I don't see any right in the constitution guaranteeing the right "not to be made ill". However the 2nd amendment is quite clear.