You're obviously not reading this thread. I addressed that three time now.
I'll add this. We ARE a nation of immigrants. This entire nation was built on cheap ... hell, and FREE .... labor.
Right now we have a very unbalanced labor situation. The unions have gotten wages for SOME semi-skilled-highschool-educated workers (dock workers) over $100 an hour while some illegals are working for four or five dollars an hour.
Some companies with profit-share plans are paying their employees three and four times industry standard and their workers are so motivated the company is still leading in their industry.
Other companies are saying they cannot make a profit here and are sending everything over-seas.
Seems to me that forcing up the bottom tier by instituting a guest-worker program would help to balance the labor market and actually increase competitiveness.
This cannot be done without near draconian enforcement leveled at the consumer of illegal labor. Not the provider. As to the costs .... I don't think all told it will cost us anything more than we are already paying in welfare and crime related costs as it is.
There really is no arguing with folks who refuse to see the vital role the Mexican laborer plays in our present economy. I think they walk around with blinders on. Maybe all the cubicle-bound can pretend that they don't depend on south of the border labor but anyone who works with their hand knows they are everywhere.
Few amoung us understand the agricultural system in this land. They themselves will tell you they are barely making it. The processing and distributing end of that industry takes the LIONS share. Take their cheap labor from them and you will see havock and empty shelves at the market.
This cannot be done without near draconian enforcement leveled at the consumer of illegal labor. Not the provider. As to the costs .... I don't think all told it will cost us anything more than we are already paying in welfare and crime related costs as it is. I don't understand how you can justify criminality. We need to expunge these criminals now.
There really is no arguing with folks who refuse to see the vital role the Mexican laborer plays in our present economy. I think they walk around with blinders on. Maybe all the cubicle-bound can pretend that they don't depend on south of the border labor but anyone who works with their hand knows they are everywhere.
Are you only for illegal Mexicans or do Poles, Asians, Russians, Indians, Ethiopians count also? Part of this issue is the fact that we are only going to give all of these special rights to illegal Hispanics from mostly Mexico. Why the hypocrisy?
I do not depend on illegal labor. It is forced upon me by the lax enforcement of our laws. If I could I would go into a restaurant and ask if they have illegals there. If they said yes then I would walk out. Can you imagine the repercussions?
The part of the equation you conveniently leave out is the effect this is having on our society. I do not want to speak spanish. At all. Ever. Hispanics add nothing to my life per se. Yet, at every turn I am forced to accomodate hispanic languages, traditions and norms. Why? Why can't we ask them to assimilate into American society the way that has been done by millions of legal immigrants before?