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To: txdoda
I think most of the freepers we go up against on these immigration threads may mean well but they are just naive. Its our job to try and educate them about the reality on the subject.

(who needs a 'pool boy' if you don't have a pool ??)

Well, I got a pool and my wife calls me the pool boy (Its a 18 foot dia. above ground pool). Actually I find it kind of relaxing cleaning it. This goes for yardwork, too. I'm real picky about how it looks.

I just don't know where these pro-immigrant/anti-border people get the idea that we're all rich and sitting on our butts having someone else work around our houses.

140 posted on 12/25/2003 9:41:41 PM PST by Missouri
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To: Missouri
I think most of the freepers we go up against on these immigration threads may mean well but they are just naive. Its our job to try and educate them about the reality on the subject.>>>>>

I can understand some being naive, but they don't have be so hateful, make accusations, & start 'name calling'.

Hello, 'pool boy'.......me, I'm the 'maid' & the 'gardener' at my house. (with a *little* help from two teens)

I just don't know where these pro-immigrant/anti-border people get the idea that we're all rich and sitting on our butts having someone else work around our houses.>>>>>>>

I think it's been a long time since they lived in 'the real world' (if they ever did) and they don't realize how hard it's getting to live here. (and pay your TAXES & bills)






142 posted on 12/25/2003 9:56:20 PM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: Missouri
I just don't know where these pro-immigrant/anti-border people get the idea that we're all rich and sitting on our butts having someone else work around our houses.

I know I do not benefit in any way when I pay a legal US citizen higher rates for babysitting when someone else pays an illegal dirt wages to clean their home and babysit their kids. If I had a business and was paying legal wages and hiring only legal workers then how do I benefit that another business owner was getting dirt-cheap illegal labor and could undercut my costs of doing business? In areas of high immigration, you see the law-abiding businessmen being put out of business by their law-breaking competition. As a taxpayer, how does it possibly benefit me that the illegals go to a county hospital for what is free health care for them and their employer but the taxpayers and insured must pay?

143 posted on 12/25/2003 9:57:58 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Missouri
I just don't know where these pro-immigrant/anti-border people get the idea that we're all rich and sitting on our butts having someone else work around our houses.

If you consume any agricultural products, with the exception of those you or your immediate neighbors grow or raise, there's a significant chance that illegal cheap labor helped produce it. I've been doing reading on the tiny town here in WA that is the epicenter of the mad cow scare, and some 90% of the population is Hispanic. My guess is that a sizable proportion of them are illegals. They're everywhere you go.

That said, there must be some way to encourage those who are illegal to register up, preferably from their home countries, without penalizing those who are trying to immigrate legally. We're simply not going to be able to afford the police state necessary to cleanse this country of illegals without giving an incentive to do things the right way, and severe disincentives to those who look the other way when hiring those who skirt the rules.

We've got to change the way things are done, keep the "guest workers" out of the Social Security system, but make withdrawls for their health costs. The money that the check cashing places make off of them would pay for secure methods of helping them to send pay home, and providing a flat tax on their earnings. We also need to end the silly practice of letting anyone born here automatically claim citizenship.

I don't expect my children and grandchildren to muck out stables or pick lettuce, I suspect you don't expect yours to, either. It might be satisfying to think of current urban welfare recipients doing those jobs, but it ain't gonna happen, either.

144 posted on 12/25/2003 10:01:50 PM PST by hunter112
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