We agree totally on that. There are still plenty who, even knowing men that this has happened to, think that it will be different with them. A few weeks ago, one guy on another thread argued that men avoiding marriage was a "false trend" and wasn't really happening. It didn't sound like he could graduate from the School of the Bleeding-Obvious. The business of government is to grow. That means that BOTH parties have a vested interest in advancing the destruction of the family though demonizing fathers. When the pill for men hits the market, it will have an enormous impact on western society, particularly in the US. I wonder what lengths the government will go to in trying to stop it. At some point they would have to reccognize that this would cut into their ability to control tens of millions of men in the future.