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To: Jorge
You single issue fanatics should try contacting the real world once in a while.

And you, Jorge, should come to California and take a good look at what's going on here in the "real world". California is now Mexifornia, and we're paying for the whole mess. Wake up.

139 posted on 12/27/2003 10:36:39 PM PST by janetgreen (Tancredo for President)
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To: janetgreen
And you, Jorge, should come to California and take a good look at what's going on here in the "real world". California is now Mexifornia, and we're paying for the whole mess. Wake up.

And this is Bush's fault? You wake up.

I've been to California and lived in South FLA where illegal immigration is a big problem as well.
So Bush the "unilateralist" who's supposedly caused the entire world to hate us....is somehow the cause of this problem because you claim he is "busy bowing to foreigners" makes no sense.

But I agree with his work-amnesty proposal for those already here who are tax-paying contributing members of society. It's balanced and reasonable.

But I do think we need to get more control of our borders due to the terrorist threat.

146 posted on 12/27/2003 10:51:10 PM PST by Jorge
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To: janetgreen
And you, Jorge, should come to California and take a good look at what's going on here in the "real world". California is now Mexifornia, and we're paying for the whole mess. Wake up.

The reason California is in such a mess is because the 'rats have complete control of CA. Why do the 'rats have control of CA? Prop 187.

In 1994 Wilson got re-elected on the issue of Prop 187, but when the economy began to improve anti-immigration sentiment began to subside and a along came a backlash against the EVIL Republicans who wanted to deprive children of an education and sick people of medicine with prop 187. In 1996 while Republicans gained 88 lower house seats and 62 upper house seats in state legislatures nationwide, California Republicans LOST 4 seats and control in the Assembly, and 2 seats in the Senate. In 1998 Republicans again gained state legislative seats but CA Republicans lost 5 seats in the Assembly and 2 seats in the Senate. Of course by 1998 the economy was booming and Prop 187 was killed by the courts, and when voters were given the choice between pro-187 Dan Lungren and Gray Davis who vehemently opposed 187, the people of CA voted for Davis. Latino voter turn out has more than doubled in CA since 187 passed and it has all gone to the 'rats. Today the Republican party in California is a joke. The only bright Republican star in CA is a pro-gay pro-abortion pro-gun control sexual mollesting Governor. Illegal immigration is a loser issue. It has killed the Republican party in CA.

An anti-immigration stance has always been a loser issue except for congressional seats in far right districts. I can't cite one Presidential election where an anti-immigration position was the winning factor. Except for Pete Wilson in California in 1994, I can't cite an example of a statewide race where an anti-immigration stance helped win the election. You act as though it will be THE major issue of 2004. Dubya's Amnesty proposal will earn him twice as many votes from centrists as he loses from the far right fringe. Dean is enough to motivate the base to vote for Bush. Those who will stay home in 2004 when faced with a choice between Dubya and Dean didn't vote for Dubya in 2000.

147 posted on 12/27/2003 10:55:35 PM PST by Once-Ler (Proud Republican and Bushbot)
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