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To: Sabertooth
In California it 1994 it was over 60%, until the likes of Bush, Kemp, and Bennett shot their pandering mouths off. Drove it a bit under 60.

Yup, and what happens when Dan Rather leads off every single newscast, night after night after night, with crying Mexican women and children being hauled out of the country away from the lives they've built in America.

I'll tell you what: Political support for the crackdown goes *poof*.

140 posted on 12/23/2003 9:31:40 PM PST by Metternich
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To: Metternich
Yup, and what happens when Dan Rather leads off every single newscast, night after night after night, with crying Mexican women and children being hauled out of the country away from the lives they've built in America.

That's crap. Quit being an enabler of cowardice and appeasement.

The Left got all the help it could from Bush, Kemp, and Bennett on #187, and we still won.

You're like one of Jushua's spies, afraid that he's a grasshopper.

I'll tell you what: Political support for the crackdown goes *poof*.

Look: we won.

In your analysis, demonstrated victories are defeats.

Quit your hand-wringing and enabling and understand that Karl Rove and President Bush are flat-out political fools to pursue any sort of legalization for Illegals.

Why do you suppose the President always so carefully dissembles about is true intentions in this regard?

If appeasement to Illegals was popular, why wouldn't President Bush be a more open and enthusiastic champion of this evisceration of our national soverignty and the rule of law?


164 posted on 12/23/2003 9:41:43 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Metternich
"Yup, and what happens when Dan Rather leads off every single newscast, night after night after night, with crying Mexican women and children being hauled out of the country away from the lives they've built in America. "

You are correct. It's over.

176 posted on 12/23/2003 9:48:51 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: Metternich
Yup, and what happens when Dan Rather leads off every single newscast, night after night after night, with crying Mexican women and children being hauled out of the country away from the lives they've built in America.

Believe it or not this is happening now, everyday, just not in very high numbers.

The problem has more to do with the fact the border is wide open and even when they are deported they come right back in.

183 posted on 12/23/2003 9:53:24 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Metternich; Sabertooth
Yup, and what happens when Dan Rather leads off every single newscast, night after night after night, with crying Mexican women and children being hauled out of the country away from the lives they've built in America.

Unfortunately, there are too few here who have your realistic approach. Most posters here contend that between 70-90% of Americans oppose illegal immigrants. If that were the case, then illegals would find insufficient welcome here to stay. If I were so adamantly opposed to illegals that I refused to vote for Bush, then I would already have been boycotting any businesses that I suspected of hiring illegals. Yet all I hear is people complaining that the fast food employees could barely speak English, but obviously picked up their food anyway.

And I am bone weary of people claiming that illegals only take the jobs that Americans won't do. That is nothing but a myth, perpetuated by the liberal media. In my rural town, teenagers eager for summer jobs can't find any -- because the "migrate" workers have moved in to pick the tomatoes, etc. And what about the hundreds of airport screeners who were recently fired because they were here illegally? Or the janitors union in California that was being replaced by illegals?

Geeze, I've fallen into a rant here, but there is so much involved and it is not as black and white as many imply. You mentioned an amnesty for those who are already here, but I think it would be more practical and beneficial to place time restrictions on any amnesty. If one can prove that they have been here for, say, ten years, and have violated no other laws, then they should be on the list for amnesty. But such an amnesty should be directly linked with strict border controls. No border controls -- no amnesty.

You are right in that it would be political suicide to rip all illegals up by their roots and deport them. The sob stories would be never-ending. I really like Sabertooth's notion of clamping down so that the rest deport themselves, but we need a reality check -- that's not going to happen, no matter who is president. That leaves it up to us citizens to come up with a viable solution. I really think a grassroots campaign to boycott all businesses that hire or support illegals could be effective if we could just get it started.

(I also think we need to abolish the anchor baby loop-hole as well.)

306 posted on 12/23/2003 11:25:19 PM PST by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: Metternich
Yup, and what happens when Dan Rather leads off every single newscast, night after night after night, with crying Mexican women and children being hauled out of the country away from the lives they've built in America.
I'll tell you what: Political support for the crackdown goes *poof*.

Think it through further.

The tear-jerk fest will only be half the story. Live coverage of riots and looting by the La Raza types will certainly firm up our resolve.

444 posted on 12/24/2003 12:10:23 PM PST by moehoward
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