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Limbaugh lawyer discussing plea bargain
CNN ^ | Dec 22, 2003

Posted on 12/22/2003 1:25:19 PM PST by george wythe

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:03:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WEST PALM BEACH, Florida (CNN) -- As attorneys for Rush Limbaugh went to court Monday to try to keep his medical records out of the hands of Florida prosecutors, there have been negotiations on a possible plea bargain for the conservative talk show host, according to a spokeswoman for his radio network.


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KEYWORDS: apologists; junkie; junkielovers; limbaugh; lovablefuzzball; rush; tastyrushkoolaid; wasted; zombie
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To: joesbucks
Aren't you plagarizing someone? It seems as if I've read what you wrote somewhere before.

I vaguely remember a story about one of the paragons of perfection, a Pharisee, (or maybe it was the Saturday Night Live Church Lady) gossiping with like-minded friends. As they were measuring themselves against their lessers, one of them even accused Jesus Christ, himself, of being a hypocrite, a drunken, and a glutton.

His friend replied: "Yes, it is truly sad to watch someone who has set the bar so high for so many fail ... ... had an effective voice until he let his arrogance and, yes his frailties, diminish his message. We can forgive him for his frailties. We shouldn't for his arrogance."

Hahahaha

401 posted on 12/23/2003 12:53:45 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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To: familyofman
looks = okay.
voice = okay.
message = okay
'action dolls' = whoring for more $$$
(how can One kill those ****ing popup windows?)
402 posted on 12/23/2003 12:57:18 PM PST by solitas (it only LOOKS like I'm p¡$$¡ng on the First Church of 'pillhead'...)
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To: cricket
Bellows said Limbaugh, who recently completed treatment for addiction to prescription painkillers, recognizes that he may have purchased drugs illegally under Florida law and "certainly had more pills than he could ever use."

And just what does a good capitalist do with his excess inventory? Intend to sell it, maybe? :D

403 posted on 12/23/2003 1:04:21 PM PST by solitas (it only LOOKS like I'm p¡$$¡ng on the First Church of 'pillhead'...)
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To: Walkin Man
Tommy Chong's in prison??? (It's been a looong time since I've watched 'that 70's show')...
404 posted on 12/23/2003 1:16:10 PM PST by solitas (it only LOOKS like I'm p¡$$¡ng on the First Church of 'pillhead'...)
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To: dwd1
Are you truly from Muleshoe? There's an hysterically funny story carried down in our family about Muleshoe, but it's off topic. And I was only teasin' you about the Cowboys - unfortunately, for many years, your comment was right on.
405 posted on 12/23/2003 1:37:32 PM PST by Endeavor
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To: Matchett-PI
If you can find that as plagarism, then I may have. I can state that I didn't go looking for a quote but only wrote what came to my mind. Since I'm not that creative, then I may have mimiced what I've heard elsewhere.

Fact remains, Rush has yet to take this like a man. He has been very Clintonian in his use of his bully pulpit. He has not only his own resources, but the resources of a syndicator doing everything possible to craft an image in our mind. Believe me, his attorney is only going to try to find case law that may be massaged to his advantage. Is that what we want, a possible bending of case law?

406 posted on 12/23/2003 1:41:55 PM PST by joesbucks
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To: Matchett-PI
It has been very frustrating to sit here and see what gets released and then reported in the media and to have to remain silent about it for a number of reasons. The occasion for silence is now ended...
Okay - spill it ALL to us.

I want to read this to you and then have just a few comments about this, and then we will move on.
DID he take any calls about this 'statement' during the show? or just 'move on' right over it all?

I don't like reading about myself...I never talk in this third-person business...
Heh.

These records will show that there was no doctor shopping.
Great! Then show them!

"He should not have to sacrifice his privacy to prove his innocence.
BUT, he should WANT to if he IS innocent. No?

Do you recall how you first heard of this story, ladies and gentlemen? It was in a tabloid newspaper.
And they were right, weren't they?

These medical records, by the way, will prove legitimate medical conditions requiring treatment.
Then show them - we're STILL waiting...

In fact it was... Well, I don't want to get [into that.] I'm so tempted to just tell you, but I'm just not going to make their job any easier.
What a load...

Now, as you all know, I have admitted that I was addicted to prescription painkillers. I have been to five weeks of treatment. BY WHOM? After failing twice to get off of these things myself, I sought professional help BY WHOM? , did so, and I continue to be in treatment now. BY WHOM? Now, I don't know, and this is...I run the risk here. I'm not whining about it. Oh, PERISH the THOUGHT!

I could give you some names of actors and actresses and sports figures, and not one of them have been pursued in this circumstance.
So, if everybody else is doing it...

And that's as much as I want to say... No, that's not as much as I want to say; that's as much as I'm going to say about it at the memo. [sic]
More not-telling-the-complete-truth; just as much as he wants said.
A fortune cookie i once saw said: "...Truth is told once; lies are repeated many times..."

407 posted on 12/23/2003 1:43:50 PM PST by solitas (it only LOOKS like I'm p¡$$¡ng on the First Church of 'pillhead'...)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
" Yeah, they couldn't possibly be interested in introducing a little sanity into the system, now could they?"

Priceless!

408 posted on 12/23/2003 1:48:04 PM PST by Endeavor
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; Howlin
" Suggesting that Ann Coulter isn't the hottest piece of *ss on Planet Earth is enough to make you a liberal around here, too! "

Honey, you're on a roll!

409 posted on 12/23/2003 1:51:04 PM PST by Endeavor
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To: george wythe
Why is it the patient's responsibility to report that he is getting pills elsewhere? Isn't it the doctor's job to ascertain if the patient is being treated by someone else, through an interview or questions on the office form? Ultimately, if it's the patient's responsibility to seek the council of just one doctor, what's the point of a "second opinion"? Furthermore, shouldn't they have run some blood tests on him before prescribing addictive pain killers? My doctors make me get blood tests for just about everything including vitamins!
410 posted on 12/23/2003 1:58:12 PM PST by MHT
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To: solitas
And just what does a good capitalist do with his excess inventory?

This "story" is only dealing with the 2,000 pills Rush got from doctors during a six month time period in 2002; everbody is avoiding any discussion whatsoever about the OTHER pills he was getting from the maid -- and her claim is that during one 47 days period she furnished him with almost 4,800 pills!

411 posted on 12/23/2003 2:02:09 PM PST by Howlin (Bush has stolen two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: solitas
Do you recall how you first heard of this story, ladies and gentlemen? It was in a tabloid newspaper.

YOU: And they were right, weren't they?

The very first reports about Bill Clinton and Monica were in a "tabloid" -- Drudge -- and I don't remember Rush saying at that time that we should all wait to hear from a really reliable source, do you?

412 posted on 12/23/2003 2:05:43 PM PST by Howlin (Bush has stolen two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: MHT
Isn't it the doctor's job to ascertain if the patient is being treated by someone else, through an interview or questions on the office form?

And if the patient lies?

413 posted on 12/23/2003 2:06:47 PM PST by Howlin (Bush has stolen two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
I'd have a sh*tload of respect for Rush if he admitted what he did, accepted his "guilt," and then started railing on the Drug War

IMHO, Rush is making the correct business moves. Rush's job is to keep a large audience for his radio show and sell advertising to generate high revenues.

Rush knows is audience very well. Most of his hardcore listeners see the world as a panorama where the right wing fights the left wing.

Since Rush is in the political right, he must be right on the rest of his dealings. Anyone questioning Rush's personal life is attacking Rush, and therefore, attacking the right wing.

It's very similar to the Clinton followers who ignored the serious accusations against the former President because Clinton was a left-winger. Left wingers must always defend left wingers, and right wingers must always defend right wingers.

So far, Rush has held to his audience, so I will say he's doing the right thing business-wise.

414 posted on 12/23/2003 2:21:22 PM PST by george wythe
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To: MHT
Isn't it the doctor's job to ascertain if the patient is being treated by someone else, through an interview or questions on the office form?

You hit the nail on the head; that's why the prosecutor is going after Rush's medical records, to find Rush's questionnaires and his doctor's notes. The prosecutor hopes to use such evidence to proof that Rush failed to disclose he was receiving similar prescriptions from other doctors.

Be careful, very careful, with those questionnaires you fill out at the doctor's office, or the answers you give to your doctors.

The War on Drugs can become the War on Us.

415 posted on 12/23/2003 2:27:28 PM PST by george wythe
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To: solitas
"BE outraged! It's good for your constitution: keeps the juices and brain activity flowing - just don't let it get away from you or be colored by devotion to a particular media personality whom you might idolize."

Good grief! so little time here. . .suffice to say however, you have overread or perhaps just misread my post; or what I intended. . .

For sure, I do not idolize Rush. No Buddha's on the road for me, thank you ; but I do have an enormous amount of respect for Rush; and yes, for his chosen capitalistic endeavors which, in the end; have been an intellectual bounty for many listeners.

No reason to separate his 'contributions' from his work; that he gets paid to 'opine' and get a sleeping population up to speed, and give some political solace to the rest of his viewers - is beside the point.

I never called into discussion his altruism; but given the topic of his conversation, three hours - five days a week - surely have no reason to doubt it - or his love of cigars; football or golf. . .and so what? No one has to 'go there'. . .nor for a moment. Oh the beauty of it!

As for the oft used phrased. . .'possesion with intent to sell'; this hardly means that Rush is 'the rest of the story here'. I mean, realistically; is that not what real dealers do. . .for their livihood? Do not think Rush needs a 'second income'. . .or third or fourth. . .

As for his medical records; this is a travesty. . .of intent and going beyond the what the law intends/allows. . . not unlike the intentions and not-so-legally sanctioned actions of the 'jack-booted Feds' rescuing Elian. . . .

This prosecutor does not need Rush's medical history to prove he was 'Doctor shopping'. They have the record of prescriptions; all of them. . .and the number of pills counted. . . and they already have Rush getting his second source of pills from his maid as well.

They can prove whatever they want to;without the medical history.

More than scary and beyond outrageous; to think these people can ride above one's rights; and manipulate the law and 'their' Courts; to their favor. I remember the subterfuge and dishonesty used to get, what remained, essentially, an illegal search warrant to 'save' Elian.

That the tactics used against Rush are no more than the same kind of a 'just desserts' mentality; as well as the usual 'end justifies the means' - above and beyond the law effort - and it should raise more than a red flag here.

It should raise - can you say - 'outrage' on behalf of Rush. . .and as well, have real concerns as to what it portends. . .

I am outraged that our freedom is so easily compromised by these people (yes, those evil Demrats) and people do not care; if only because they see him as a fair target; not realizing 'their' face is inside that bulls-ring of a target as well.

Outrage? You bet. . . and where will this end"

It may just depend on how you care to spell. If you don't mind Amerika; or if you do. . .

Oh, and about that underwear; real Republican's do not donate their dirty/worn/ragged underwear and take a tax deduction for their charity.

(. . .and now the announcement re 'mad cow disease'. . .more outrage and scepticism re the possibilities ofterrorism being orchestrated against America....but that is another post.)

416 posted on 12/23/2003 2:45:38 PM PST by cricket
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To: george wythe
You nailed it, again this all lies in people who simply cannot view this situation outside the prism of left vs. right.

I'm really beginning to think that if Limbaugh ritually sacrificed a virgin in the middle of Times Square and ran dripping with blood and waving a knife to the top of the Empire State Building with a bullhorn and started yelling that he was the antichrist, there would be an element here who would support him simply because he's a valuable weapon in the war between left and right that seems to be the sum total of a lot of folks' existence.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's an important war that needs to be fought, I wouldn't be here if I didn't think that, but in nearly 30 years as a conservative activist politics has always been important to me but it's not been my life 365/24/7 and I can put aside political considerations when the situation calls for it.

Basically, I'm a Pharisee when it comes to the law. I plead guilty to that and make no apologies for it. I expect people who live in this society to obey the law, period, or suffer the consequences of both illegal and civil disobedience. I'm not bloodthirsty when it comes to punishment, I don't think every perp belongs in jail and I normally wouldn't lock somebody up and throw away the key on a first offense. But I expect that people obey the law. Period. And I expect that people take responsibility and accept the consequences when they violate it. Period. Regardless of who they are, what party they belong to or what political philosophy they follow or whatever they've done good or bad in the past.

I'll take it this far, if somebody were to put in my hands right now evidence ... I mean iron-clad, incontrovertible, undeniable, 100 percent credible evidence that would stand up in any court right up to the Supremes, not just blathering and made-up stuff by liberals and Democrats, that G.W. Bush was guilty without any shadow of a doubt of high crimes and misdemeanors, I would immediately advocate his impeachment, regardless of any political considerations. I could not look at myself in the mirror in the a.m. otherwise.

417 posted on 12/23/2003 3:21:46 PM PST by GB
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To: george wythe
IMHO, Rush is making the correct business moves. Rush's job is to keep a large audience for his radio show and sell advertising to generate high revenues.
So, shading the truth and selectively dispensing partial truths are 'correct business moves'?

Rush knows is audience very well. Most of his hardcore listeners see the world as a panorama where the right wing fights the left wing.
(i.e. blinded by idolizing him?)

Since Rush is in the political right, he must be right on the rest of his dealings. Anyone questioning Rush's personal life is attacking Rush, and therefore, attacking the right wing.
And...you actually believe this...?

Left wingers must always defend left wingers, and right wingers must always defend right wingers.
Words fail me.

So far, Rush has held to his audience, so I will say he's doing the right thing business-wise.
Should the unfortunate occasion ever present itself: please remind me not to ever do any business with you... :)

418 posted on 12/23/2003 7:14:35 PM PST by solitas (it only LOOKS like I'm p¡$$¡ng on the First Church of 'pillhead'...)
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To: Howlin
And if the patient lies?
All the more reason for looking at those medical records right now: to determine the doctor's initial reactions and judgements at the beginning, rather than what he thinks NOW that the $h¡† has hit the fan.
419 posted on 12/23/2003 7:21:32 PM PST by solitas (it only LOOKS like I'm p¡$$¡ng on the First Church of 'pillhead'...)
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To: GB
...I'm really beginning to think that if Limbaugh ritually sacrificed a virgin in the middle of Times Square and ran dripping with blood and waving a knife to the top of the Empire State Building with a bullhorn and started yelling that he was the antichrist...

"...alright - let's see you do THAT on television!..." (who else here is old enough to remember Stan Freberg and the twenty-ton (I think) maraschino cherry?)

420 posted on 12/23/2003 7:29:45 PM PST by solitas (it only LOOKS like I'm p¡$$¡ng on the First Church of 'pillhead'...)
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