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We Broke It: Khadafy’s Secret Ties with U.S.
NewsMax.com ^
| December 21, 2003
| News Max Staff
Posted on 12/21/2003 4:35:22 PM PST by yoe
When Libya went public this week that it was cooperating with the U.S., and planning to destroy its weapons of mass destruction, this should have come as no surprise to NewsMax.coms Insider Report subscribers.
Thats because NewsMax had the story first.
In our September 27, 2003 edition of Insider Report we revealed the following:
The U.S. is making up with Libya's Khadafy after he agreed to pay $2.7 billion for blowing up Pan Am 103.
Typically, money can't make restitution for an act of war. But one of our moles says that since the mid-'90s, Khadafy has been assisting the U.S. and working with the CIA to fight Muslim terror. Khadafy, no fundamentalist, fears the Islamacists as well.
Already, press reports indicate that Libyas new attitude toward WMDs did not take place suddenly, saying the contacts on this issue began right after the U.S. led invasion of Iraq earlier this year.
But the secret relationship between the U.S. and Libya goes back to the mid-90s.
We owe some gratitude on this coup to former President Ronald Reagan, who was the first world leader to stand up to Khadafy when he sent a fleet of B-52s over Tripoli to teach the Colonel a lesson.
Nor should we forget that our allies the French opposed Reagans bombing.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaddafi; libia; libya; lockerbie; oil; panamflight103; whocanbetrusted; wmd
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If anything, News Max is a fighter for the truth......
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posted on
12/21/2003 4:35:23 PM PST
by
yoe
To: yoe
It's a good conservative site. Usually I just browse the hot topics a few times a week and skip the rest.
To: yoe
B52s? I thought it was F111s and A6s? Oh well, the point was taken by Mohamar in any case.
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posted on
12/21/2003 4:41:31 PM PST
by
Hugin
To: yoe
We owe some gratitude on this coup to former President Ronald Reagan, who was the first world leader to stand up to Khadafy when he sent a fleet of B-52s over Tripoli to teach the Colonel a lesson.
I thought it consisted of fb111 out of england
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posted on
12/21/2003 4:42:10 PM PST
by
al baby
(Ice cream does not have bones)
To: yoe
Our cooperation, on many levels, with Libya has been going on since Clinton and was about as "secret" as his sex life.
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posted on
12/21/2003 4:43:31 PM PST
by
Burkeman1
("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
To: yoe
Well if their fighting for the truth, they need to fight harder.....
We owe some gratitude on this coup to former President Ronald Reagan, who was the first world leader to stand up to Khadafy when he sent a fleet of B-52s over Tripoli .....
They were F-111 fighter/bombers and I believe some EA6-B's to jam radar.
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posted on
12/21/2003 4:43:36 PM PST
by
HardStarboard
(Dump Wesley Clark.....he worries me as much as Hillary!)
To: Hugin; HardStarboard
The size of the strike forces final configuration was immense and complex. Approximately 100 aircraft were launched in direct support of the raid:
Air Force
28 KC-10 and KC-135 tankers
5 EF-111 Raven ECM (Electronic Countermeasure) aircraft
24 FB-111 Strike aircraft (six of these were airborne spares, and returned to base after the initial refueling)
Navy
14 A-6E strike aircraft
12 A-7E and F/A-18 Electronic warfare and jamming aircraft which undertook air defense suppression for the mission
Several F-14 Tomcats which took up the long range Combat Air Patrol (CAP) responsibilities
4 E-2C Hawkeye airborne command and control and warning aircraft
In addition to the above, several helicopters were deployed for possible search and rescue operations, and "50-80 more aircraft were airborne in the vicinity of the carriers some 150-200 miles off shore." In fact, the total size of the force was criticized as excessive from various sources. All combined, the whole operation involved (to some degree) "more aircraft and combat ships than Britain employed during its entire campaign in the Falklands."
The first aircraft to launch were the 28 tankers from Britain followed closely by the F/EF-111s. Four refuelings and several hours later, these planes rounded the tip of Tunisia and were integrated into the Navys airborne armada by an Air Force officer aboard a KC-10 tanker which had been modified to function also as an airborne command coordination center.
Although joint in nature, the actual execution of the strike was operationally and geographically divided between the Navy and Air Force. Navy A-6s were assigned the target in the Benghazi area, and the Air Force F-111s hit the other three targets in the vicinity of Tripoli. This division of responsibility was done largely to simplify and deconflict command and control of the operational aspects of the raid. The modified KC-10 tanker was given charge of the Air Force resources while the carrier America controlled the Navy aircraft. The airborne E-2C Hawkeyes provided early warning, air control vectors, and operations.
The actual combat commenced at 0200 (local Libyan time), lasted less than 12 minutes, and dropped 60 tons of munitions. Resistance outside the immediate area of attack was nonexistent, and Libyan air defense aircraft never launched. One FB-111 strike aircraft was lost during the strike. The entire armada remained in the vicinity for over an hour trying to account for all aircraft.
FROM:
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/el_dorado_canyon.htm
To: al baby; Hugin; yoe; FormerlyAnotherLurker; HardStarboard
We owe some gratitude on this ?coup? to former President Ronald Reagan, who was the first world leader to stand up to Khadafy when he sent a fleet of B-52s over Tripoli to teach the Colonel a lesson. Typical Newsmax story. They get just enough facts wrong to blow their credibility.
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posted on
12/21/2003 4:56:39 PM PST
by
Paleo Conservative
(Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
To: Paleo Conservative
NewMax goes for the headline. Credibility is secondary.
They often put their own spin sentences mixed in with quotes so it's impossible to tell where fact and spin diverge.
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posted on
12/21/2003 5:01:39 PM PST
by
OldFriend
(Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
To: yoe
Note to Newsmax:
Run your stories through Free Republic for fact-checking first before posting on line.
To: Dan Evans
Run your stories through Free Republic for fact-checking first before posting on line.
That, Dan, is an excellent idea. This is a glaring error which does severely affect credibility.
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posted on
12/21/2003 7:14:45 PM PST
by
Ole Okie
(Go Oklahoma Sooners)
To: yoe
YEA NEWS MAX.
I think I get their emails--whether direct or via someone, I don't recall.
Worth reading.
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posted on
12/21/2003 7:55:41 PM PST
by
Quix
(Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
To: yoe
We owe some gratitude on this coup to former President Ronald Reagan, who was the first world leader to stand up to Khadafy when he sent a fleet of B-52s over Tripoli to teach the Colonel a lesson. More NewsMax accuracy.
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posted on
12/21/2003 7:59:16 PM PST
by
TankerKC
(Don’t mistake my defensive response for commitment.)
To: FormerlyAnotherLurker
I was with the KC-10s out of Fairford that evening.
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posted on
12/21/2003 8:01:59 PM PST
by
TankerKC
(Don’t mistake my defensive response for commitment.)
To: yoe
At least spell the guy's name right!!!!
To: al baby
"I thought it consisted of fb111 out of england" Yes and if memory serves the French refused to allow them to fly over France on that very mission.
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posted on
12/21/2003 8:37:57 PM PST
by
Mad Dawgg
(French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
To: FormerlyAnotherLurker
Thanks for the fully verified facts of Operation El Dorado.
We have got an awful bunch of folks in the USA rewriting history and I think its important to call them on it when we see it. I'm sure NewsMax had no malicious intent in their mistake - but plenty of others do, and we need to knock down the disinformation artists of the left at every chance!
Good get!
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posted on
12/21/2003 9:54:38 PM PST
by
HardStarboard
(Dump Wesley Clark.....he worries me as much as Hillary!)
To: Mad Dawgg
Yes and if memory serves the French refused to allow them to fly over France on that very mission.
I have the same recollection, MD.
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posted on
12/22/2003 1:48:49 AM PST
by
hummingbird
("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
To: Mad Dawgg
Yes and if memory serves the French refused to allow them to fly over France on that very mission. One less publicized detail (and one I'm don't completely understand) is that Spain wasnt playing along either. Prior to El Dorado Canyon, I was with the European Tanker Task Force at Zaragoza Air Base Spain. We couldnt fly from there for the mission, so we had to move to England. The route from England to Libya went around BOTH Spain and France. Im not sure what all the details were that led to that, but France always gets the (well deserved) bad rap.
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posted on
12/22/2003 5:26:51 AM PST
by
TankerKC
(Don’t mistake my defensive response for commitment.)
To: Dan Evans
Excellent advice. Read #7.
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posted on
12/22/2003 5:32:44 AM PST
by
yoe
(Mrs. Clinton's heart is rumored to be as big as a Caraway Seed, but I think that is an exaggeration.)
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