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EPA allows ship sunk in Canadian fishery
Chicago Tribune (requires registration) ^ | 20 December | Paul Singer

Posted on 12/20/2003 3:10:08 PM PST by FormerlyAnotherLurker

EPA allows ship sunk in Canadian fishery Agency designated where the derelict should be dumped; now it may have to remove it

By Paul Singer Washington Bureau

December 20, 2003

WASHINGTON -- The Environmental Protection Agency issued a routine permit allowing a private salvage company to sink a 140-foot wooden ship in the Pacific Ocean last month, but an error on the permit led the company to dump the ship in waters claimed by Canada.

Now the ship sits under 1,500 feet of water, loaded with 200 tons of concrete to keep it down. It's resting right in the middle of prime fishing waters for Canadian trawlers. It might have to be raised, concrete and all, at an estimated cost of $2 million.

In a diplomatic tussle that has reached the capitals of both nations, Canadian and U.S. officials are scrambling to figure out who is at fault and how to raise the ship.

According to Canadian fishermen, the Victoria M, a derelict fishing vessel from Tacoma, Wash., was towed out to sea and sunk on Nov. 23, under the guidance of an ocean dumping permit issued by the U.S. EPA. But the coordinates on the permit sent the ship into waters claimed by Canada, not U.S. waters.

The error has added to diplomatic tension between the two nations, which have been arguing about issues ranging from the war in Iraq to prescription drugs to legalization of marijuana.

On Dec. 1, the Canadian Coast Guard issued an alert that "a derelict vessel has been sunk . . . and is considered a hazard to fishermen." < excerpted >

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: canada; costalenvironment; epa; fisheries
"a derelict vessel has been sunk . . . and is considered a hazard to fishermen."

I'm not a fan of seabed trawling but as long as it's legal the Canucks have a point about wanting it removed. It would seem almost impossible with GPS to make this big of an error but when some clerk enters the wrong coordinates I guess it's easy to miss by X number of miles.

Though, I would love to see what happens when a trawler snags 200 tons of concrete, just not from the deck of the trawler!

1 posted on 12/20/2003 3:10:08 PM PST by FormerlyAnotherLurker
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To: FormerlyAnotherLurker
Is there a name of a person responsible for this misadventure yet?
2 posted on 12/20/2003 3:14:17 PM PST by Thebaddog (Scratch the itch.)
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To: FormerlyAnotherLurker
This is no problem really. If it is going to cost 2 million dollars, simply deduct it from the EPA's budget and lay off as MANY EPA employees as is necessary to pay for it.
3 posted on 12/20/2003 3:14:43 PM PST by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise
I LIKE the way you think.....if only there WERE a quid pro quo for their stupidity.
4 posted on 12/20/2003 3:29:11 PM PST by pgobrien (82d Airborne All the Way!)
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To: Enterprise
That's a great idea!
Never happen though...
5 posted on 12/20/2003 3:30:31 PM PST by FormerlyAnotherLurker (Barrett M82a1)
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To: farmfriend
ping
6 posted on 12/20/2003 3:34:16 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Enterprise
Oh sure. If you're going to use wisdom.
7 posted on 12/20/2003 3:38:31 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ("Noöne has the right not to be offended" John Cleese)
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To: FormerlyAnotherLurker
>> Now the ship sits under 1,500 feet of water, loaded with 200 tons of concrete to keep it down <<

Being a flatlander, I am curious. Will a wooden ship not sink unless it is filled with concrete?
8 posted on 12/20/2003 4:52:01 PM PST by Steel Eye
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To: FormerlyAnotherLurker
That snagging might be almost as much fun as watching the Canadian fishermen trying to read a GPS. Somehow, American fishermen can read a GPS and thereby not only avoid known snags, they even use them to steer back into port via long twisty channels in fog and darkness.
9 posted on 12/20/2003 5:47:07 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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To: FormerlyAnotherLurker; AAABEST; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; amom; AndreaZingg; Anonymous2; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.

10 posted on 12/20/2003 8:24:43 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: Steel Eye
>> Now the ship sits under 1,500 feet of water, loaded with 200 tons of concrete to keep it down <<

Being a flatlander, I am curious. Will a wooden ship not sink unless it is filled with concrete?

My question is...do Fishing boats normally troll the sea floor at 1500' depth, so their nets get snagged?

Even if the ship was 50' high from the bottom, will it effect the nets in reality? Or is this another "gift" from Cretin?

11 posted on 12/20/2003 8:46:41 PM PST by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
12 posted on 12/21/2003 3:10:23 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Itzlzha
You are right. 1500' is pretty deep. Over a quarter of a mile.

The whole thing sounds kinda fishy, doesn't it? :)
13 posted on 12/21/2003 9:36:49 AM PST by Steel Eye
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