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These are cool pics, but isnt it true that the telescope delivers these images in black and white and then someone else puts in the colors to make them look nice?
2 posted on 12/19/2003 11:27:19 PM PST by RecklessConservative
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To: RecklessConservative
I believe this is infrared photos - i.e. invisible to our eyes; so, "color" is not applicable, none would 'seen', though colors could be used to distinguish varying lengths of the electromagnetic waves.
3 posted on 12/19/2003 11:54:12 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: RecklessConservative
isnt it true that the telescope delivers these images in black and white and then someone else puts in the colors to make them look nice?

Yes, but....

A few to things to remember. This telescope takes pictures in a part of the light sprectrum which is invisible to the human eye. So any coloration, even black and white, is a distortion of reality.

Colors reare different parts of the visible light spectrum. What you see here are different parts of the infrared, invisible spectrum. If we could see in that band we'd see more colors. So it is appropriate to use colors we know inorder to depcit that range of spectra.

Finally, all cameras can only record monochromatic images. they just happen to record three of them. Color images are created by filtering light into its components and recording each third of the sprectrum in a black and white image. Subsequently those three layers are used to either make a print or with substution a slide.

So the answer is yes, the colors are artificial, but then so is all photography.

4 posted on 12/19/2003 11:54:30 PM PST by Looking for Diogenes
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To: RecklessConservative
I doubt it. An infrared telescope is presumably looking at infrared frequencies of light outside the spectrum that humans can see. From other comments above, clearly this one is looking at several frequencies or a range of frequencies, at several "colors" that we can't see. Then these various invisible (to us) frequencies are translated to colors we can see.

So, yes, false colors. But if the real colors were shown, the pictures would look black to our human eyes.

5 posted on 12/19/2003 11:56:29 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (Mooo !!!!)
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To: RecklessConservative
"These are cool pics, but isnt it true that the telescope delivers these images in black and white and then someone else puts in the colors to make them look nice?"

You are about fifty percent correct,you can't see infrared so technically it is all in black and white. But the telesope sees a range of frequencies, so normally they color code on the basis of a mapped spectrum. There's artistic license in the sense that you can pick which color goes with which frequency.

6 posted on 12/19/2003 11:58:21 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: RecklessConservative
These are cool pics, but isnt it true that the telescope delivers these images in black and white and then someone else puts in the colors to make them look nice?

The computers produce false-color images based on the wavelengths of light hitting the sensors. The phrase "...designed to paint a more comprehensive picture of the cosmos using different wavelengths of light" from the article is appropriate.

But then, no astro-photo really shows what an object would look like to the human eye anyway - even those taken on regular film. The photos are basically time-lapse. The "shutter" remains open for a certain amount of time (sometimes hours), allowing the image to burn onto the film. Our retinas don't work like that, and film is much more color-sensitive.

Having said all that, the 3-D quality of the images above is really striking!!

10 posted on 12/20/2003 12:14:13 AM PST by apastron
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To: RecklessConservative
I took an unofficial tour of the Keck and other telescopes on top of Mauna Kea...(they are not open to the public, or are not supposed to be, plus it takes a long drive in a 4WD on a small dirt road up the side of a barren mountain to get there)...anyway those are the biggest in the world I think. NASA has some, the Air Force, and several ohers on top of this big mountain on the big island...

What they do (and I am no expert)is have the tops of those telescopes (the round part) be able to rotate at the same speed as the earth turns.

When the sun goes down they focus on one small speck in the sky and turn that big baby on and leave it all night.

What it does is collect light. Its like a timed exposure sort of because the light is SO faint.

They have massive mirrors inside that are specially crafted that reflect the light.

I think they turn those signals that are captured actually into numbers. If you saw the raw data it looks like a print out of just long pages of numbers about 30 feet long. Those images are actually recorded numerically (I think).

Then they take that data and put it into a computer than can read it and turn it into images.

BTW they put those scopes in Hawaii on top of mountains because of several reasons 1) Dust. the ocean traps much of the dust. 2)the height makes a difference. 3) the station on the globe.

From what I understand even the earths own atmosphere distorts the light...so sometimes the pics are a no go...

I have to find the literature they gave me when I was there in order to confirm all of this :o)

39 posted on 12/20/2003 2:33:37 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: RecklessConservative
From what I understand even the earths own atmosphere distorts the light...so sometimes the pics are a no go...

Thats why they are moving into putting telescopes in space...

But hey, I don't know anything about astronomy.

40 posted on 12/20/2003 2:40:11 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: RecklessConservative
I think there are different types of telescopes too. Some are visual, some are electromagnetic, some are infared...I think...
41 posted on 12/20/2003 2:42:00 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: RecklessConservative
the telescope delivers these images in black and white

Yes. It's false color as they call it. Several bands of 'color' are recorded and then transformed into visible colors to bring out various features. They could have rendered shades of green or just brightnesses of gray if they wanted.

43 posted on 12/20/2003 4:46:59 PM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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