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1 posted on 12/19/2003 6:03:29 PM PST by blam
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http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Peace/fence.html
2 posted on 12/19/2003 6:13:08 PM PST by Davea
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Build the wall Israel. Ignore leftists in Europe and globalists in the USA and just build it. No arab muslim access to Jewish areas - no Jewish victims of arab muslim terror.
3 posted on 12/19/2003 6:16:19 PM PST by dagnabbit (Stop Immigrating Islam. Don't let France happen to America.)
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This is from the Ministry of Defense (or da Fence?)

Fence is proving effective

10/12/2003

Security Fence has proven its effectiveness once again. Even though the Security Fence is incomplete it has proven itself in the past few days with the failure of Palestinian terrorists to cross into Israel and carry out two separate terror attacks.

In the first case, two terrorists, members of the Islamic Jihad, came from Zbubeh but were unable to cross into Israel directly and had to make a detour of 45 km to try and infiltrate in the Beit Shean area where there is no fence, in order to carry out a suicide bombing at the ORT high school in Yokne'am. This long march provided the IDF and the Security forces who were chasing them, time to trace them hiding in a mosque in Bardaleh and capture them thus preventing the terror attack.

The other suicide bombing was planned to take place in Rosh Ha'ayin. Two of the three members belonging to the Fatah Tanzim infrastructure in Nablus left Nablus in one car and the third member, a 40 year old mother of seven children left in a separate vehicle carrying the explosive belt with her.

Their meeting point was Kfar Kasim, a spot chosen because there is no security fence in that area yet. The explosive belt was transferred and the woman returned back to Nablus undetected.

The large presence of Israeli security forces in the area of Rosh Ha'ayin prevented the two terrorists from reaching their destination and they tried to get back but, later on they were caught heading towards Habla. The woman was arrested in Nablus.

In both cases, terror attacks were prevented due to the combination of specific intelligence and deterrence provided by the Security Fence and the security forces.

4 posted on 12/19/2003 6:19:47 PM PST by Davea
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The Israeli government refuses to build the fence on the Green Line, the internationally recognised border between the West Bank and Israel.

Are the Palestinians now recognizing the Green Line? Is "The Independent" now recognizing it?

If so, this is big news

5 posted on 12/19/2003 6:53:08 PM PST by Inyokern
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The sovereign Jewish Nation is doing the only thing possible to ensure its security. Walls are nothing new in the middle east. The Jewish Nation even came back from captivity to rebuild Jerusalem and her walls.

Let the arabs and the islamofacists scream and howl all they want but it won't change one single thing. The Jewish Nation is finally acting on their God given inheritance showing that they now know how to quit cowtowing to our evil State Department Traitors! The U.S. State Department and their Roadmap To Hell has finally run out of Gas! There is every reason to hope the Jewish Nation now realizes who their true friends in all the world. It is people like you and me who work and support (LEGAL) immigration back to Israel. This is the strength I supply through tithes and offerings and I am a Gentile AKA a Spiritual Jew! There are millions of us all over America who are part of this movement and my family has made it possible for many to emigrate successfully back to the Jewish Nation.

No matter how much ignorance strives to prevail here in America just know that there are groups all over who know what our State Department and mainstream government does not. Their gross arrogant attitude towards the Jewish State is bringing down upon us a situation that will cause this nation to ultimately be judged by Jehovah Gira for openly putting The Jewish Nation in Jeopardy that will forch him to act on behalf of the Jewish Nation. The Great I AM is sovereign of the Universe and his warnings are not to be taken lightly. Genesis 12: 2&3 is plain speech and direct to the Point. Our current attitude towards the Jewish Nation may have gone past the point of no return. There are limits to I AM's patience. If you are looking for something to support I suggest you consider something that is lasting and will ultimately support you in a beneficial way. We are living in the last vestiges of the Church Age; redeem that which is present because time is fleeting!

6 posted on 12/19/2003 7:32:46 PM PST by winker
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Oh little town of Bethlehem,
how still we see thee lie
Above thy deep and dreamless sleep
the silent stars go by
Yet in they dark streets shineth,
the everlasting light
The hopes and fears of all the years
are met in thee tonight.
7 posted on 12/19/2003 7:38:55 PM PST by T Minus Four
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If Israel contains any smart people they should indicate that the "wall" is built to maintain a defensible position. The "wall," then is a result of a long term plan to maintain both peace and Israeli security.

Thus far Israel's detractors are picturing this as a simple territorial grab. There has to be a smarter way to label and sell the "wall."

IMHO the minute the Arabs saw the "wall" as a reality and at the same time discovered their funding from Iraq was gone and that of the Saudis was going, the terroristic attacks diminished. No nation can survive if it cannot protect its citizens from foreign and domestic attack. There can't be a real debate about the worthiness of the wall regardless of what the official US position is. The "wall" is a matter of survival.

9 posted on 12/19/2003 8:59:25 PM PST by shrinkermd (i)
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I don't know about anybody else, but I would feel much better with the Church of the Nativity on the Israeli side.
10 posted on 12/19/2003 9:14:55 PM PST by McGavin999
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