Aztlan backers see Hussein capture hoax

WND ^ | 12-18-03 | N/A

[JustPiper]

Mexican-American separatists don't believe U.S. has Saddam

A Mexican-American separatist website, La Voz de Aztlan, is claiming the U.S. capture of Saddam Hussein is a hoax.

The pro-Arab and viciously anti-Israeli organization also sees a spontaneous uprising of popular support for Hussein throughout Iraq – a phenomenon unnoticed by news organizations throughout the world, including those in Arab countries.

According to the site, "extreme doubts have arisen throughout Islam that the released pictures by U.S. occupation forces of the 'captured Saddam' are of the Iraqi leader. Thousands of Iraqis, who knew Saddam, are claiming that it is one of Saddam's many known 'doubles.'"

Why would an American-based website produced by Mexican-Americans be so committed to the legacy of Saddam Hussein?

The Aztlan movement, which calls for the creation of a separate, Spanish-speaking state in North America out of much of the Southwest, gets its inspiration from Yasser Arafat's Palestinian statehood movement.

La Voz de Aztlan, or the Voice of Aztlan, called the capture of Hussein the "mother of all hoaxes."

Its website identifies Mexicans in the U.S. as "America's Palestinians." Many Mexicans see themselves as part of a transnational ethnic group known as "La Raza" – the race. A May editorial on the website, with a dateline of "Los Angeles, Alta California," declares that "both La Raza and the Palestinians have been displaced by invaders that have utilized military means to conquer and occupy our territories."

Hussein, the group's captive hero, meanwhile, paid some $35 million in aid to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers.

According to a survey conducted in June 2002, a healthy majority of Mexicans claim that their country rightfully owns much of the southwestern United States, while most Americans believe Washington should adopt stricter immigration standards and deploy U.S. troops along the border. The Zogby International poll found a majority of Mexicans say the U.S. Southwest "rightfully belongs to Mexico," and that Mexican citizens should be able to come into those areas freely, without U.S. permission. The poll found that 58 percent of Mexicans agree with the statement, "The territory of the United States' Southwest rightfully belongs to Mexico." Zogby said 28 percent disagreed, while another 14 percent said they weren't sure.

Activists who quite literally see themselves as "America's Palestinians" are gearing up a movement to carve out of the southwestern United States – a region including all of Bush's home state of Texas – a sovereign Hispanic state called the Republica del Norte.

"There are great similarities between the political and economic condition of the Palestinians in occupied Palestine and that of La Raza in the southwest United States," explains an editorial in La Voz de Aztlan in Los Angeles, the city seen as the future capital of the new Hispanic state – much like Jerusalem is seen by Palestinian Arabs as their capital.

The editorial goes on to draw analogies between the Arab uprising in Israel and gang violence in Los Angeles. It's the same thing, the activists claim. This is not crime and punishment, according to La Raza activists, this is the birth of an independence movement by young Hispanics.

"The similarities are many," says the editorial. "The takeover of our respective lands by foreign elements occurred 100 years apart. For La Raza, it happened in 1848 when Mexico lost the southwest at the end of the Mexican-American War and the signing of the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo. For the Palestinians, it occurred in 1948 when the Zionist Jewish People's Council gathered at the Tel Aviv Museum and signed the 'Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel' on the day in which the British Mandate over Palestine expired."

[Mr. Mojo]

Only the will is lacking.

I don't see us suddently getting the will anytime soon, if ever. It would take a catastrophe on a scale we can't imagine.

[TLI]

Bump

[veronica]

Some other anti-semitic nutters I have run into on the net think it was a hoax too. Dumbass nutters. :))

[TLI]

Bump

[TLI]

They want to see Israel destroyed, they're pro-Islamist/terrorist, and they seek to annex over 1/3 of the U.S. for Mexico. Where the hell is our Homeland Security? Every last member of this org should be rounded up and sent to Gitmo, political correctness be damned.

Let's start today. I send out a bit of email now and then, so should everyone else. Then block and copy some text of your posts of choice, print it, sign it, make about 10 copies and spend an hour, (thats about what it really takes) looking up 10 effective address to send them to.

TLI

[FITZ]

I think sometimes people are almost forced into hyphens and other labels. I never know what to call certain types. Once they were the Spanish-Americans. But someone decided that wasn't right, so they became Spanish surnamed. But I guess to some coming more directly from Mexico, that went against their anti-Spaniard mentality so it got changed to Mexican-Americans even though many under this label never came from Mexico but really are descended from Spanish and Spanish/Native Americans. Some changed to being Chicanos --- but you don't dare call some that term --- they want to be called Hispanics. But you don't dare to call some Hispanics because they don't like that lump-altogether label either. More and more it seems the Americans of Spanish descent want to say they have Spanish/Indian ancestry especially if they aren't from Mexico. Some are not even close to being immigrants from that country.

[FITZ]

They don't understand how easy it would be for the U.S. government to seize 100 miles of what is now Mexico

We wouldn't have to stop at 100 miles either. For one --- there are almost no able-bodied men of fighting age left in Mexico --- and the elites making the big bucks off Mexico would be the first to flee to Europe. There would be almost no fight.

[muleskinner]

A small group of mostly students stirred up by their "professors" who are barely older then themselves.

The illegals I've seen are more interested in digging the irrigation ditch and moving the landscape rock. They have their priorities straight and have no time for fools.

[185JHP]

Absolutely on the money. Great analysis.