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Always surprised that so many FReepers react SO negatively to O'Reilly. I enjoy his wisdom and his exposing of "spin." His arrogance can get unpleasant but so does Rush's arrogance and nobody on this board seems to complain about that.

As for his beef with Drudge, O'Reilly's ratings numbers for "The Factor" are published there showing him whipping the butt of all other comers and Fox whipping butt of CNN across the board.

So how can O'Reilly compare Drudge to Moore, not to believed? Something doesn't make sense. Drudge's material is mostly linked to newspapers....what I use anyway.

You make a good point. Listen O'Reilly's message and not his method of delivery. The same holds true for Rush. If we get down to personalities we start to look like cannibals(or worse yet, like Dean's fellow Democrats going after Dean).

For the most part these guys are right. They all have faults, but it is less than helpful to focus on the faults and ignore the bigger picture.

Certainly we do not have to be sycophants of all " right wing" pundits when the problems is not with the message, but with the style.

Bill O'Reilly's basic message is usually correct, but Bill O'Reilly is somewhat of an ass. Perhaps, to a lesser extent the same thing can be said of Rush, or of me, or of you, or of anyone, except for hardcore Democrats (note I did not say "hardcore liberals"). Hardcord Democrats are always and everywhere, not only asses, but either dumb-asses or crooked asses.

We on the right need to look for ways to make make peace with others who are at least 95% on our side, but who may be a little more strident than some of us are. After all, Bill Clinton won by being demonstratively wrong on a large number of issues, but by being strident in his rhetoric.

Consider this: Is it better to by correct and polite and lose or to be correct, a little (or a lot) brash, and win. This looks to me like the choice we face.