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To: dagnabbit
Why would you trust Shelby on this more than you would the president. Bogusly stamped secret the commission report? I would doubt it.

Shelby's spent years reading thousands of Intel-related reports. I would think he has some basis for saying something is largely releasable. Even if he's inexplicably wildly off the mark, surely there's 50 percent, 40 percent, a single word - about Saudi Arabia and 9-11 that the American people are adult enough to hear.

Shelby reading thousands of intel reports -- nope. Shelby is a politician and nothing more.

Back in early 1999, Senator Shelby was the first Senate Republican to come out against an impeachment trial. He went on all the news shows and said many negative things about impeachment including something like the following; 10 or 15 Republican Senators will not vote for a perjury conviction.

One of my first posts to FR was a criticism of that stupid Shelby remark.

Well it was total BS and it was a "push" statement. A push statement similar to a "push poll" is a statement designed to push the news in a certain direction. It's not a statement designed to reflect the actual reality. Anyway, several weeks later, only 3 R senators voted against impeachment for purjury. Shelby and his little push statement were wrong.

Now fast-forward to several months back and here is Shelby again doing the bidding for the rats on the weekend network news shows and here is Shelby again helping out the rats and our global enemies by making this little BS "push" statement and insinuating that the president is protecting King Fahd and Crown Prince Abdullah from incriminating information. And how do we know this besides Shelby telling us this is so? We know this because the NY Times and the WP post are giving us unnamed sources that are sayign so. What BS!

Instead we're treated to Crawford photo ops with House of Saud "princes" and to pabulum about the KSA being an ally in the WOT.

You have no clue what was said at the Crawford meetings and you believe exactly what the WP and the NY Times want you to believe.

Most likely instead a deal was struck at that time. We do damage to Al-Qaeda and OBL and we remove Saddam from power and we start and Pali-Israeli roadmap. In return, they would then be in the position to start cracking terrorist heads in S.A.

BTW- There's a thread somewhere on FR today about a Saudi diplomat mixing it up with Mohammad Atta's Hamburg terror cell.

YOu would have to link me to that thread. I do know that there was wide reports of the Atta Hamberg cell using false ID's, claiming to be relatives of S.A. diplomats.

300 posted on 12/17/2003 10:13:28 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
Richard Shelby was a Democrat before changing parties. Sometimes he acts like he still is.
327 posted on 12/17/2003 10:29:08 PM PST by auboy (I'm out here on the front lines, sleep in peace tonight–American Soldier–Toby Keith, Chuck Cannon)
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To: FreeReign
Now fast-forward to several months back and here is Shelby again doing the bidding for the rats on the weekend network news shows and here is Shelby again helping out the rats and our global enemies by making this little BS "push" statement and insinuating that the president is protecting King Fahd and Crown Prince Abdullah from incriminating information. And how do we know this besides Shelby telling us this is so? We know this because the NY Times and the WP post are giving us unnamed sources that are sayign so. What BS!

Wow! Shelby has got himself involved in quite a conspiracy there! Spreading all those whole-cloth fabrications around about our clean-handed, good allies the Saudis. Good thing you've had him pegged since the impeachment days.

You have no clue what was said at the Crawford meetings and you believe exactly what the WP and the NY Times want you to believe.
Most likely instead a deal was struck at that time. We do damage to Al-Qaeda and OBL and we remove Saddam from power and we start and Pali-Israeli roadmap. In return, they would then be in the position to start cracking terrorist heads in S.A.

Sorry. My bad. I obviously don't have the inside track you do on the "secret plan".

YOu would have to link me to that thread.

No, I really don't. There’s a search function at FR - "saudi diplomat" will get you that thread and half-dozen others describing apparent involvement of members of the Saudi Govt. with 9-11.

374 posted on 12/17/2003 11:36:43 PM PST by dagnabbit (Stop Immigrating Islam. Don't Let France Happen to America.)
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